Forum Discussion
- LlamaWithKatana3 years agoSeasoned Ace@DefilarTheGreat So T1 time before nerf then XD
- CarreraLuu3 years agoSeasoned Veteran
I don't mean to rain on your parade Devs but please roll back the update on the BSV-M like it's getting dropped with 2-3 bullets makes no sense! This was a terrible idea.
I dont want you guys to buff the other guns this would make things even worst, just debuff the BSV-M, its like everyone uses it now, and whats worst are the subsonic rounds, 1,2,3 before you know it my character is dead. Please I beg oo push a update out this week to debuff this gun.
- Psubond3 years agoLegend
@CarreraLuu wrote:I don't mean to rain on your parade Devs but please roll back the update on the BSV-M like it's getting dropped with 2-3 bullets makes no sense! This was a terrible idea.
I dont want you guys to buff the other guns this would make things even worst, just debuff the BSV-M, its like everyone uses it now, and whats worst are the subsonic rounds, 1,2,3 before you know it my character is dead. Please I beg oo push a update out this week to debuff this gun.
or you could join in the fun and T1 before they nerf it
- CarreraLuu3 years agoSeasoned Veteran@Psubond Imma real good shot. Honestly, when it first came out I was doing like 40-5 with that thing and got bored. I rather the AC-42 and other weapons that gives real recoil :-(. Its just too easy of a weapon, im getting blasted in 2 seconds bro make it make sense.
- BR-DuaneDibbley3 years agoSeasoned Ace@CarreraLuu
Maybe they want to -- but they just don't have the tech. Sorry. - GovntTookMyBaby3 years agoSeasoned Ace
lol they will probly push out an emergency patch to buff it 🥳
- xpaydayx3 years agoRising Hotshot
I gave in and joined the meta. It's definitely the best gun in a Battlefield game EVER.
- 3 years ago
Although this is meant to be a marksman rifle, it is mostly if not only being used as an smg at close range, which is only due to the rate of fire upgrade from one of the magazine attachments providing also a larger mag, which is hilariously obvious if you compare how the BSV fires when it has the standard mag and the extended.
In my view, the extended mag attachment should be removed or exchanged for a different attachment, or, the rate of fire upgrade that comes with the attachment should be removed. This would then possibly put the weapon back into its actual class of weapons, marks-man-rifles.
Anyone who doesn't agree is wrong.
- 3 years ago
@LancySchemerActually it is the short barrel with extended / Highpower ammunition that makes this weapon hilariously op, you don’t even need the CQ ammo.
First of all they should remove the full auto function, remove the short barrel, lower the rpm on Highpower ammo and all is fine.- GrizzGolf3 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Bolvard wrote:@LancySchemerActually it is the short barrel with extended / Highpower ammunition that makes this weapon hilariously op, you don’t even need the CQ ammo.
First of all they should remove the full auto function, remove the short barrel, lower the rpm on Highpower ammo and all is fine.That would be a huge help and step in the right direction
- ATFGunr3 years agoLegend@LancySchemer So what you’re saying is we should all use it fast before they nerf it? 😉🤣
- DigitalHype3 years agoSeasoned Ace
I don't think they will nerf it until next season. It's a season 1 BP unlock that might incentivize players to buy tier skips and boins. It's no accident how strong it is right now.
- GrizzGolf3 years agoSeasoned Ace
The thing kills me in less than two seconds. But on the other side of it, I can kill people in two seconds. Its too much power for me
- PartyFarter3 years agoSeasoned Ace
Just remove full auto fire and it will be more in line with the other dmr's.
Right now its an assault rifle with dmr stats and you dont need to be Einstein to understand thats a bit much. :P
- Camocheese3 years agoNew Rookie
Okay so the DM7:
300ish rpm, semi-auto
100 meter 3 shot kill range
BSV-M with highpower
- 400ish rpm, full-auto
- 100++ meter 3 shot kill range
What is that?
There's close combat ammo for the DM7 but then you'll only get a 40 meter 3 shot range, still a worse fire rate than BSV-M and it now drops off to 5 shots at 100 meters. With highpower you get infinite 3 shot range but now your fire rate is terrible and you get a 10 round magazine.
BSV-M gets much more effective close combat ammo that turns it into a high fire rate assault rifle and more importantly with highpower rounds it does everything the DM7 does and does it better. Not only is it simply a better DMR, but it also works as a close to mid range full-auto assault rifle.
Again, what the f
The balancing here is so laughably bad that the cynic in me believes it can only be intentional to entice people to play the game (since BSV-M is a battlepass reward). Even disregarding the BSV-M, the DM7 still sucks. It gets horribly outgunned at close range but it's not all that great at range to justify that. I might, maybe, use it over the VCAR but it's still bad.
- Anobix3 years agoSeasoned Ace@Camocheese I agree, but at the same time, there will always be 'meta' weapons for any category unless you want them all to be skins with the same stat ranges.
- Camocheese3 years agoNew Rookie@Anobix Yes, there are always meta weapons but the BSV-M basically makes the DM7 obsolete. BSV-M is just an upgrade over the gun. The K30 isn't an upgrade over the PBX even if the K30 is a much more effective gun overall in practice. The PBX still has better range and its clear that within the SMG category DICE has set some sort of line in which the SMGs should fall to. Before the BSV-M that line existed for the DMRs as well. They all fell within around the same ballpark, sort of. But now the BSV-M kinda exists in a realm of its own.
- RMEChief3 years agoLegend@Camocheese The problem is 90% of the encounters happen within 100m, even for vehicles, which is not very BF like.
Without any significant range separation, DMRs and ARs really have limited value. DMRs are probably the worst outside of the BSV right now.
The BSV basically becomes an SMG. The DM7 would need at least a burst fire to compete.- ElliotLH3 years agoHero+
The DM7 does feel a bit weak, but I still like using it for some reason. I think it could do with a bit of love.