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- ATFGunr3 years agoLegend@Ironhead841Prior to the nerf, a short barrel and close combat rounds on the LCMG was an absolute beast and my first T1. Since the nerf, it jumps too much so it’s not quite the laser it used to be. With the right compensator, short barrel and close combat rounds it’s still pretty darn decent.
- Camocheese3 years agoNew Rookie
Okay so the DM7:
300ish rpm, semi-auto
100 meter 3 shot kill range
BSV-M with highpower
- 400ish rpm, full-auto
- 100++ meter 3 shot kill range
What is that?
There's close combat ammo for the DM7 but then you'll only get a 40 meter 3 shot range, still a worse fire rate than BSV-M and it now drops off to 5 shots at 100 meters. With highpower you get infinite 3 shot range but now your fire rate is terrible and you get a 10 round magazine.
BSV-M gets much more effective close combat ammo that turns it into a high fire rate assault rifle and more importantly with highpower rounds it does everything the DM7 does and does it better. Not only is it simply a better DMR, but it also works as a close to mid range full-auto assault rifle.
Again, what the f
The balancing here is so laughably bad that the cynic in me believes it can only be intentional to entice people to play the game (since BSV-M is a battlepass reward). Even disregarding the BSV-M, the DM7 still sucks. It gets horribly outgunned at close range but it's not all that great at range to justify that. I might, maybe, use it over the VCAR but it's still bad.
- Anobix3 years agoSeasoned Ace@Camocheese I agree, but at the same time, there will always be 'meta' weapons for any category unless you want them all to be skins with the same stat ranges.
- RMEChief3 years agoLegend@Camocheese The problem is 90% of the encounters happen within 100m, even for vehicles, which is not very BF like.
Without any significant range separation, DMRs and ARs really have limited value. DMRs are probably the worst outside of the BSV right now.
The BSV basically becomes an SMG. The DM7 would need at least a burst fire to compete. - ElliotLH3 years agoHero+
The DM7 does feel a bit weak, but I still like using it for some reason. I think it could do with a bit of love.
- Camocheese3 years agoNew Rookie@Anobix Yes, there are always meta weapons but the BSV-M basically makes the DM7 obsolete. BSV-M is just an upgrade over the gun. The K30 isn't an upgrade over the PBX even if the K30 is a much more effective gun overall in practice. The PBX still has better range and its clear that within the SMG category DICE has set some sort of line in which the SMGs should fall to. Before the BSV-M that line existed for the DMRs as well. They all fell within around the same ballpark, sort of. But now the BSV-M kinda exists in a realm of its own.
- CloverDeuce3 years agoSeasoned Ace
The DM7 needs a fix somewhere. My Go-To in BFV was the M1 and I have always liked a nice 'heavy' rifle in all my BF games. I was really hoping the DM7 would be it but this gun just sucks. I can't seem to hit anything with it, and when I do, no real damage is being done. I'll use it for 2-3 matches and then be like, 'nah, can't do it' and switch to another gun. I come back to it after every patch hoping it is better, but it isn't. It's a shame.
- RMEChief3 years agoLegend
It should be called the DM7-A for all the assists I get with it. I get 10x more assists than kills because even headshots don't take players out.
- Camocheese3 years agoNew Rookie
Well, yeah, the recoil is a bit weird on the DM7. The low fire rate results in awful time-to-kill. And it has terrible bloom when spammed. You can spray most full-auto weapons very accurately so it's odd that the DM7 (and VCAR) become terribly inaccurate when spammed. I like using semi-auto guns in Battlefields so I'm saddened that the semi-auto DMRs are poop in this game. The SVK is ok, I think.
- Captain_Tachi3 years agoSeasoned Hotshot
Through the low time to kill, DMRs are not very important. You can kill with K30 or any assault rifle nearly as effective on distance, as with the DMRs. I made my 1200 kills with the SVK, it was kind of ok, but with the DM7 or VCAR... don't know, can't kill anybody with them. Something with the recoil is really strange with these weapons and in close combar (or even mid range) they get outclassed by assault riffles or SMGs, because they have very high damage and laser accuracy.
Exception is the BSV-M. Don't know what the design philosophy of this weapon was, but it had to be something like "Let's make a weapon, every clown can kill anyone". High damage, low recoil, suppressor and subsonic rounds, full auto mode and good rate of fire. What could go wrong! To unlock T1 was never that easy.
In BF5, DMRs were in a good spot, but in BF2042, I would consider one only for very long range (SVK) or to unlock T1. I don't think, I will ever unlock T1 for DM7 or VCAR. They just suck too much.