the new update is a complete disgrace
I spent hours on falck and now they have taken the rockets out of her hands and given them to the engineer class. Those outside the engineer group were left completely defenseless against tanks, armo...
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I am not the one who barge in someone thread and gospeling "Battlefield experience has always been that" revelations, while only invest so litte time for any of the franchise and even worse spent puny €5 next to free to obtain them.
I liked the idea of BF4 second coming, but this is not what I expected. It is simply dry, tiresome, convoluted and now, they take away fun from this game.
Reason I brought BF1 here as a role model, which many diehard fans hate, but look how it stands against BF 2042, which turn out to be worst of since Hardline.
What kind of team play are you talking about if from match to match a player finds himself in a random squad with a rookie leader? There are no permanent squads in matches. There is no squad management system as in BF4. Start there.
This class system is absolutely ridiculous. Even the specialists could not be properly distributed. For example, how does Pike's basic ability and a sniper rifle correlate?
@r1zky24 Just giving some counter arguments to hopefully make some people see the benefit of the changes. And put in some counter balance.
What makes you say I invested so little? Played since 1942, Battlefield vietnam was even my first game to play multiplayer.
Dunno do die hard fans hate BF1?
To me they just added the fun back in the game. Are there specific things people lost that they go so hard against this update?
I agree they should make the engineers more interesting currently when running engineer I just ignore the gadgets. But still see plenty people using it Boris and Lis have always seemed very popular.To me it’s still the same game they just made it easier to read the game and actually play it like a game instead of a chaotic mess.
@doubleome wrote:@r1zky24 Just giving some counter arguments to hopefully make some people see the benefit of the changes. And put in some counter balance.
What makes you say I invested so little? Played since 1942, Battlefield vietnam was even my first game to play multiplayer.
Dunno do die hard fans hate BF1?
To me they just added the fun back in the game. Are there specific things people lost that they go so hard against this update?
I agree they should make the engineers more interesting currently when running engineer I just ignore the gadgets. But still see plenty people using it Boris and Lis have always seemed very popular.To me it’s still the same game they just made it easier to read the game and actually play it like a game instead of a chaotic mess.
Again, how do restrictions in loadouts make a game more fun, especially when those restrictions weren't there when we bought the game? We paid for something that has now been taken away and replaced by an inferior version. Why didn't they make this a game mode for those who like classes and left the rest of us alone?
@doubleomeChaos occurs due to the fact that there is no balance in the formation of teams. And there is no system in the formation of squads. Absolute randomness (chaotic) in both cases. And since the vast majority of players are single players, there can be no question of any team play, this is just an utopian idea. It is necessary to balance teams and unite experienced players into squads. The class system has reduced the variability in the choice of combinations of specialists and devices, kills creativity and freedom of action. And it doesn't bring any team play, because the radom squad of lones only exists for one match and there is no squad management system.
@doubleomeAlso a source of chaos is the concept of monkey vertical gameplay and the corresponding map design. You're looking for chaos in the wrong place. Normal maps in BF2042 are flat maps, like Spearhead (best of BF2042), Kaleidoscope, Renewal, Breakaway or Hourglass. Personally, I hate Discarded and Manifest, worst maps in history ((
I played in squad first and last with BF4, and then when BF1 came out none of them played anymore because jobs, family, etc.
Luckily, I doesn't have that luxury and move cities to cities so often so I got time to played but not that much.
As I said before, I don't mind the second coming of the B4, but considering many "new" troops are completely clueless to play a tactical FPS, let alone the Battlefield model, it's very frustrating. All they know is equip themselves with all defense crap and cower camp in a corner. It might be different from servers in certain regions, but in my region Assault plays a critical role, they flank, destroy vehicles and capture flags. The rest just enjoy easy spawn or cheap kill. It's been always that way since BF 1, BF V and "early" BF 2042. And don't start with the idea that they could learn few things or two, no effing way, they grew up in the BF V era or at most the BF 1 era, rarely did any of them play BF 4.
It's borderline ignorant to compare between specialist and class, no its not the same thing but I welcome everyone to mix between the two.
To put it mildly, I'm quoting @RaginSam :
If you think Classes is what makes a BF game, I think you're missing the point. Plus, the Specialist were classes, but just more flexible.
@r1zky243.2 has for me nailed the best middle ground that could be achieved by limiting gadgets and keeping the weapons universal
@r1zky24never compared specialist and class. Completely wrong from the beginning.
Remind me again what [ insert your preference ] were there when it launched and what [ insert your preference ] forced down our throat right after the update?
Of course, restricting what is already limited is a very brilliant invention, Elon must learn from EA-Dice.
- @r1zky24 that is a terrifying prospect
