The Nightbird forces players to leave (console)

Anti-air needs an overhaul. It's simply not a fun playstyle.

The lack of AA isn't a 'skill' issue anymore than people not distributing ammo is a 'skill' issue. People don't do these things since we play games for entertainment, not to do digital chores.

I'd like to see a reliable chunk damage solution - dumbfire stinger with proxy detonation perhaps.  

Lately the Night Bird has started to * me off, even though I used to love flying on it. As soon as DICE completed the attack helicopter, lately I only take it.
In a word - the Night Bird breaks all the harmony of aviation.
Its small hitbox plus maneuverability does not allow it to be dealt with adequately in a head-on collision. The Night Bird has a strong dominance over infantry and aviation, and work definitely needs to be done with it to reduce its attractiveness. The Night Bird should not be stronger than a shock combat unit; its task is to support, and not to turn the tide of combat operations.

In update 6.2 they mentioned that they had improved the hit rate, but in reality it was only the visual effects of a hit that appeared, and their registration took place after 2 or after 1.
You tell me he only needs 2 hits with 127 mm Zuni, I will laugh at you as you work to hit him with 127 mm. He will receive damage from 1, will be healed, and while you are suffering to hit him a second time, his health regeneration will already start and as a result you will need to do 2 more hits. A good or average pilot will cut you into cogs with miniguns while you are trying to hit him.

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@MackTKau wrote:

@Agent10_Alex"Where are these imaginary Nightbird pilots that are so good"
Try playing one night on Oceania servers. We have multiple twitch sweats who do nothing but camp the little bird to abuse it to go 100-0 every round. They all have at least one dedicated repair bithc who has nothing better in his life to do than hold mouse1 in the very rare times their helo gets damaged, using autoclickers to get the helo again if they ever get killed (and of course, give it to the sweat).

They ruin the game and DICE have catered to them at every step. They're even doing it again by nerfing Liz even more, and she's the only semi-viable anti-air weapon in the game now.

"Some urged me to mention the lack of properly functioning laser-targeting teamplay as a possible alleviation (which is another issue in general)."

Soflam's are useless because they do nothing that you couldn't already do just by taking a stinger.

Not that it matters anyway, the air vehicles with their magic 5 second reloading flares that instabreak every lock in the game make it pointless.

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Final edit: can I actually have this question answered for once? Why don't any of you have problems with the Super Hokum, Apache, stealth helis, or the Super Hind? These helicopters don't * you off more? They are way more common, way more overpowered, and way more skillless than the Nightbird. 

I'm convinced these posts about nerfing Nightbirds and buffing Lis are from clinically insane people who probably streamsnipe pilots.

To quote myself^

Also guy is admittedly from OCE where they streamsnipe pilots literally all day for months.

[Edit: Font size of some words made smaller - ElliotLH]

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@SkyL4Ncer21 wrote:
@MackTKauEvery night? Yeah sure buddy totally believable i rarely find those guys

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It's time to stop feeding the troll. He's a liar. He is one of these losers who pretends there is no AA, but probably dedicates literally his life to policing OCE servers from "Nightbird sweats". He probably follows, stalks, and harasses players who fly. This is what they do there. And they come here and Reddit to write fabrications on Lis and Nightbirds in hopes that DICE rewards them. 

Anyone who actually plays the game knows Nightbirds are rare.

"I'd like to see a reliable chunk damage solution - dumbfire stinger with proxy detonation perhaps."

We had that in BFV with the Fliegerfaust. 

Didn't stop air mains whining about it being an "unskilled noob weapons" and wanting it nerfed until it was useless, because getting killed twice in a round was just too much nerf nerf nerf. Just like they complain about every other AA weapon being an "unskilled noob weapon".

Air mains cry so much about anti-air weapons that in BF4 they would waste money renting their own servers just so they could ban anyone who had the nerve to use the anti-air weapons. "No igla/stinger fast vehicle spawn" and if you took 'their' helo or jet, or shot them down no matter how you did it, they'd kick/ban. 

Air mains just want to farm infantry like it's a singleplayer game with no chance of being hit, let alone shot down and killed.

If you get stuck in main base as a pilot that is a skill issue.

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@D-Man3847 wrote:
...raging psychos in that thing.

Maybe they should just get rid of the little bird period or remove the mini gun on it or nerf it

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Maybe you should just play COD? Why don't these players go try Battlefield 4 and whine to that playerbase about the Little Bird?

Do you actually believe these pilots are raging psychos. The only reading psychos are the ones coming here to complain about imaginary 100-0 Nightbird pilots when in reality the bird is barely ever seen on the Battlefield because it sucks the most and requires more skill.