This Game Desperately Needs Console-only Cross-play.

This game desperately needs console-only cross-play. I should have been less vague in my post, but I thought less was more. Apparently it led to massive assumptions, my bad everyone. My opinion...

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OskooI_007

Seasoned Ace

3 years ago

@Popa2caps wrote:
Hello, @OskooI_007

It should be known that I'm both a PC and/ or a console gamer, I'm truly unbiased as much as humanly possible.

There are only two things I can't stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch. - Nigel Powers

I'm very aware of the practices a PC gamer does to gain more performance and/ or reduced latency. My comment was mostly directed at how Battlefield 2042 on Xbox Series X and/ or Playstation 5 looks strictly better in terms of clearly while in motion.

Everytime I watch a video of someone on the latest console I'm surprised how clean the transition is (turning around with a fluid motion, even without motion blur), because I've never experienced that on a PC, and I've been building them since 2007.

It's my belief that consoles still hold a niche the PC ecosystem will never have, and that is optimization. I have a 160 hz monitor, with G-Sync, but still the console to my eyes looks and performs better.

Consoles run with Vsync turned on in-game. Battlefield runs really smooth in this configuration.

Frame-times are less smooth if Vsync is turned on in Nvidia Control Panel but turned off in-game. Even with Gsync.

Battlefield has issues with stutters and uneven frame pacing when Vsync is turned off in-game

Anonymous

3 years ago

Hello, @OskooI_007

I don't like to compare console V-Sync to computer hardware V-Sync as they could work very differently. Consoles are a highly closed system and I don't think it's just a pre-fetch of frames going on here, but a combination of system tools at the developers disposal.

Adaptive sync, resolution, unified memory (DDR6). It's those combinations of tools to hardware that I think is why the game looks so smooth to me. Honestly it could just be post-production by the YouTuber uploading the videos like in Adobe Premiere or something similar.

You know it could be I'm just noticing the direct difference between how most all PC gamers (like me) that disable mostly everything to gain frames, then once I see someone on console I notice a pretty image and I'm like, Nice graphics lol

I honestly didn't know about V-Sync in the control panel even with G-Sync enabled, I'll have to try it out one day.

Hello, @DeepSixxxx

I'm sorry, but it seems you have some misconception going on here.

(A) If the hardware only exports at 60hz, no upscaler will change that because there is no information that the TV can create to change that. It's true that TV manufacturers try to convey that it does, but it's truly a marketing tactic to sell more products.

A signal to be true 120 hz needs 120 hz of information. You can't take 60hz and upscale it to 120 and say it's the same thing because it's not. What I'm guessing is your TV is reporting a 119 FPS from its internal backlight strobing effect to try and convey a more smooth image (like a form of motion blur).

🍺 Vertical synchronization HERE does as its name implies, but it surely doesn't upscale anything that I'm aware of.

"Vertical synchronization is an option in most systems in which the video card is prevented from doing anything visible to the display memory until after the monitor finishes its current refresh cycle.".

(C) Understand if you ever see marketing material from online sites that says a TV is good for gaming, it's very possible that it was a paid advertisement.

I could be biased in this matter, but I simply don't trust Tv manufacturers for gaming. Understand it's a business and they know the best business is when your community spreads marketing for them.

In my opinion a gaming monitor can do everything a TV can, just better. If a user needs (so-called) smart features, add a dongle like a ruoko and call it a day.

OskooI_007
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
I'm looking to buy a Ps5 and new 4k OLED monitor. Too bad the smallest size they come in is 43". I'd like a 24" OLED monitor because I like the screen 2 feet from my face! lol

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