get rid of the bots. I don't want to fight Sven again.

@Authurie What if I told you we had bots in multiplayer way back in Refractor era Battlefield at the beginning of the franchise in Battlefield 1942, Battlefield 2, and Battlefield 2142? So bots are not "un-Battlefield" they just haven't made an appearance in recent Battlefield titles.

@ragnarok013 Good to see you here on the forums again @Popa2caps! DICE's reasoning for bots IMO is sound to fill a server and displace the bots each time a player joins and takes a slot. When I had my own BF3, BF4, and BF1 servers getting them started was often a challenge and one I see commented upon time and again by other server hosts. I really don't see a downside to having bots for this server fill mechanic. Perhaps those who object to bots under all circumstances can make a server without them in Portal?Yeah I mostly see messages in my email, so I come check what was said, but I mostly stick to reddit as I find it superior.Let's just agree to disagree. I think DICE made two wrong decisions regarding bots. One being adding bots in modern first person shooter, Second, the users can't disable them. Both are terrible ideas in my opinion.I won't speak for others, but I would honestly take a half-full server knowing everyone was real over a full server with half bots.I get some people might have had issues with filling servers in the past, but filling them with bots is not fixing the issue, it makes it worse. It makes it worse because it doesn't fix the underlying issue, filling serversWant more people to play your game, make it a good game and people will just fill the rooms.

@ragnarok013 Yep. But @Authurie you are correct, this is not Unreal Tournament.

@Authurie if we wouldn't have Bots in BF2042, nobody would miss them. 👿 Greets, Travis

@zakrocz wrote:@ragnarok013 What if I told you those bots were not included in any online battlefield game.Battlefield has never had bots in online multiplayer. @zakrocz just looked back at my old files...you're right that was an old BF2 LAN mod (we did have a lot of freedom back in the Refractor era). We had Single Player bots from 1942-2142 (like we can make in Portal), COOP bots in BC2 Onslaught Mode, BF3 COOP, and BF5 Coop modes.

This is not Unreal Tournament, so

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OskooI_007
Legend
4 years ago
Lol, when DICE announced bots in human vs human mode I immediately thought of Unreal Tournament too. I hated bot servers in that game... and in all human vs human game modes.
ragnarok013
Hero+
4 years ago
@Authurie What if I told you we had bots in multiplayer way back in Refractor era Battlefield at the beginning of the franchise in Battlefield 1942, Battlefield 2, and Battlefield 2142? So bots are not "un-Battlefield" they just haven't made an appearance in recent Battlefield titles.
carsono311
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@ragnarok013 Yep. But @Authurie you are correct, this is not Unreal Tournament.
SirBobdk
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
Bots in an online multiplayer game with human players and 20+ specialists are a terrible idea.
Its_Travis_199
Hero+
4 years ago
@Authurie if we wouldn't have Bots in BF2042, nobody would miss them. 👿

Greets,

Travis
Anonymous
4 years ago
@Its_Travis_199

That's great. I agree, but it's an biased opinion.
Its_Travis_199
Hero+
4 years ago
Haha. Well, i wouldn't miss them for sure 😉 but i can still live with them as well.

Greets,

Travis
zakrocz
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
@ragnarok013 What if I told you those bots were not included in any online battlefield game.
Battlefield has never had bots in online multiplayer.
ragnarok013
Hero+
4 years ago
@zakrocz wrote:
@ragnarok013 What if I told you those bots were not included in any online battlefield game.
Battlefield has never had bots in online multiplayer.

@zakrocz just looked back at my old files...you're right that was an old BF2 LAN mod (we did have a lot of freedom back in the Refractor era). We had Single Player bots from 1942-2142 (like we can make in Portal), COOP bots in BC2 Onslaught Mode, BF3 COOP, and BF5 Coop modes.
Anonymous
4 years ago
@Authurie

Bots are a very poor decision in my opinion in modern first person video games. Video games for the majority (non-content creators) are for entertainment purposes, and I don't know a ton of people who want to shoot bots over real players. It's one of the reasons why single player titles are in decline.

If someone does something spectacular, but then noticed it was a bot, that can ruin the core experience forever with that title, and it can lower retention. The player could second guess everything they do, to the point where they start to think everyone is a bot, then get killed by a real player just drives them to just leave the game altogether.

Bots are a fun concept to learn the basic skills with a new title, but never a good idea to mix them into the core experience like what DICE has done. Someone will argue it works for older titles in series like Battlefield 1942, Battlefield 2 and Battlefield 2142, but honestly how many people actually play those titles today.

I wouldn't be surprised if at some point Battlefield 2042 gets the ability to disable bots. Also, EA should stop calling them A.I. because they're not. A.I. would be able to write it's own code, these bots can't do that.

@ragnarok013

It's not an agreement about what worked for titles in the past, but what will work today in video game entertainment. In my mind it's real players vs other real players.