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Straatford87
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3 years ago

Update 3.2 Feedback - Classes

Hey everyone,
 
We'd like to hear your feedback on several gameplay elements now that Update 3.2 is available for play.
 
Today we'll start with Classes.
 
  • What do you like?
  • What do you dislike?
  • Anything you'd like to see changed?

Drop your comments below.

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  • ATFGunr's avatar
    ATFGunr
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @RaginSam To be fair, the game sold ok because people thought it was going to be a Battlefield game. I don’t think anyone expected a hero shooter with shades of Tarkov and PubG. I hated the specialists when the game came out. I’d wanted a Battlefield game. All my clan mates wanted a battlefield game. What we got was a solo hero shooter with no thought given to thousands of players who played together. It was bad enough back in the day when Origin started restricting us to 100 friends, or to a platoon of 50. Now we get 3 people to play with. The missing server browser and persistent servers is the biggest reason this game is dead. After 900 hours in it, they bring classes back? Huge mistake. I said it before, if classes came out in the first few months, it might have worked. We all are used to the game the old way. I agree with you that the performance was dog *. If the game was battlefield with specialists, I think people would have eventually come around. The strong dislike of specialists was drowned out with all the other bad design and execution. Dice has dug an incredibly deep hole of anger and frustration with 2042, I’ve played since 1942 (so 20 years) and I love the BF series. I play other games, but always came back to BF. Trying to combine classes with specialist is stupid. I’m not going to sugarcoat it, it’s idiotic. It’s typical Dice. Stop listening to the streamers, and listen to the players damn it. The smug devs need to get off their high horse and realize how badly they judged the community. They’re still misjudging. They still think they know what we want. It’s pretty goldarned clear they don’t by looking at the player count. We played a few times, remember when we couldn’t get a Breakthrough going and it was only 9PM PST? That’s telling man. It tells us that 2042 is a failure as a BF. After a year it’s finally an ok game, but it’s still not Battlefield. Classes deserve to be in the next game, if they make one. They’re the wrong move at this point in time for 2042.
  • ATFGunr's avatar
    ATFGunr
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @Straatford87I made a longer post replying to RaginSam, if it’s TLDR I can short form it. Classes are too late to help, and now have hurt 2042. I’m now forced to play with specialists I’ve T1d already, such as Falck, just so I can have ammo to unlock scopes for weapons or vault weapons. Specialists and classes don’t mix. The game is over a year old. We’re comfortable, we just wanted performance improvements and a damn server browser. 3.2 provided significant performance improvements, for me anyways (PC 5800x 3600ti) so that’s been achieved. If you guys tried classes months ago, it might have worked because we would not have developed deeper play styles. It’s a hard fail bro. Should have just noted it and had classes in whatever the next game is.
  • mickey921's avatar
    mickey921
    3 years ago

    new ice shading and attention to detail on breakaway I’m sure I seen some sort of giant bones buried in the ice. Nice touch 👌 and the ice tunnel affect is really cool. 
    Also thermal scopes. I think we should have a day and night option the thermal scopes should only be allowed to be used when it’s dark. But I do like them regardless. I have seen more teamwork or it could be a placebo affect not sure. I personally dislike the classes and would prefer the option to choose what I want. But to be honest it doesn’t bother me now.  I would prioritise a server browser and squad management. I think console only crossplay is needed. Maybe let PlayStation players trial the game for free for a week or so to get the player count up as I have seen more Xbox players than PlayStation because it’s on there game pass.

    Thank you.

  • Naturemax's avatar
    Naturemax
    3 years ago
    Maybe you can consider adding that the supply station just like battlefield V, so the vehicle needs ammunition limitation. I'm not satisfied with the current team system. You need to adjust it. The weapons of each arms need to be limited. It is a team war in the battlefield. And you must optimize the game.Hope battlefield2042 gets better and better.
  • SCUBASTEVE120's avatar
    SCUBASTEVE120
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @UP_LordPlumberI agree with this guy. 3 classes have C5 and 3 classes have claymores, 2 have smoke launcher. Grenades are basically all classes have access, no limitations. This would be better IMO:

    C5- Engineer and Recon
    Claymore- Support and Recon
    Smoke launcher- Support only

  • ProClobberChild's avatar
    ProClobberChild
    3 years ago

    1.I like the return of class system:eastandard🙂,But it is not perfect now......

    2.1.The Assault are too selfish,It has no function that can help others(This is contrary to the original intention of this series)...Players who use it generally like to act by themselves.This deepens its selfishness, and at the same time makes the players who use it unable to get supplies.My suggestion is to add ammobag and healthbag to the assault,and the support can take ammobag/healthbag and ammocrate/healthcrate.(In this case, you need to optimize the skills of angel)

       2. The Engineer,Guskovsky's sentry gun cannot cause any damage to the vehicle,this makes him more like a Recon,can only be used to mark and harass infantry...Why not give him two types of sentry gun towers—Mark/Damage infantry or Damage vehicle.

       3.The Engineer,Crawford's 3 Skills make he look like a support,he can not also damage to the ground vehicle.He needs to strengthen his engineer characteristics, not only in the field of fix.

     

       4.RAO's 3 Skills is for vehicles,i think he should be an engineer,give him anti-tank tools, and he can complete a set of attacks by himself.This makes him more useful.

       5.The current weapon proficiency are useless,too monotonous and no personalized choice.More weapon proficiency must be updated,and the proficiency cannot be limited to weapons. There should be more choices for the proficiency of class function.

    I hope it will be useful to you. I hope the game will get better and better.

     
  • GVlXxf's avatar
    GVlXxf
    New Ace
    3 years ago

    @Bogdanov89they bring class system as they 'listen' so called ' teamwork' so u are saying something wouldn't happen , or class system will be nothing as u described advice.

    if u play the game , u know class system didn't need to be forcily introduced, as i posted, u just make a defined loadout for ppl to use. 

  • AsahaTx's avatar
    AsahaTx
    3 years ago
    @Naturemax

    Very much agree with the return of the BFV vehicle ammo limit system, when the vehicle camper and APS-3 exist, it will be very difficult to deal with him, especially when he is camper sniping at very far away.

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    Maybe DICE can try to tweak the Specialist system.



    At the beginning of a game, players can only choose the classic Classes , but Specialists are locked at the beginning and need points to unlock and use.
    Players will also get the same "support points" when they gain experience points. Support points can be used to summon vehicles, points can be spent on respawn to use experts (of course, the squad summon ability is back even better)



    For example, it takes 100 points to unlock the first Specialist in the same game, and it takes more points to unlock the Specialist next time. It forces players to be more active in obtaining points.

    Let the game become a collaborative battle between classes and Specialists.

    So let the number of Specialist to be reduced throughout the game and then slightly strengthens the design of the Specialist.
  • UP_Hawxxeye's avatar
    UP_Hawxxeye
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @AsahaTx
    The vehicles in BFV just camped even harder next to ammo stations.

    If we do not want vehicles to camp, we buff them at close range combat and nerf them at long range. It is not rocket science.

    If DICE makes tank be clumsy siege tanks, of course they will camp.
    If they make them agile behemoths like in BF3/4 they will come for you up close, hungry for carnage.
  • kregora's avatar
    kregora
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Straatford87 short answer, I don't like anything. I dislike everything. I suggest you revert back to the original state.

    But I am realistic enough to realize that my opinion isn't relevant, that you can't "fix" anything, because you are stuck between a bolder and a hard place, and that the latest change was made to please people that don't care anymore and gave up on the game a year ago.

    So we have the misfits that don't fit in the classes they are assigned to like Boris, Caspar, Crawford, Dozer, Irish, Paik, Rao and the new Recon.
    But hey, that is only 8 out of 14.

    All the recons use range limited specializations,none of them is a predestined for a sniper role.

    My general weapon choice for the engineers does not include lmgs.
    I don't need to add more time to switching from and to rockets and repair tool. So lmg bonus for engineers is as an odd choice as it is for the support class.

    The only good thing about the self-healing, armor plate carrying, double ammo carrying assaults is, that they don't carry armor plates, when they go after vehicles with c5.

    Did I mention that I don't like that every class received a third bonus gadget, excepts medics? The now have a Defibrillator that allows you not to heal to full, and kill people?
    I still remember the "Learn to revive to 100%, or don't revive at all" complains of BF4. And killing with the defib is a Battlefield moment, instead of a melee takedown, but that in nothing that should suffice as argument, why the support doen't need an bonus gadget.

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