Vehicle campers
Years later I still find it rather ridiculous that enemy vehicles can just take pot shots from areas that would normally be out of bounds for the time team - this works both ways and is pretty diffic...
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What are vehicles suppose to do when the game design is BROKEN AS HELL the core issue is down to them dropping class system now every player on both team either runs AA launcher or Recoiless rockets so what are vehicles suppose to do when as soon as they stop camping they take 200 missiles in the * and have to go back into hiding and wait out the insanely long health regen
I wouldn't be opposed to more armor/defensive abilities if it meant vehicles pushed objectives more
It's not so much armour, hit points or damage output on tanks, thats ok-ish. Specifically its the horrible acceleration and turning speed and ridiculously slow turret. It takes 6 seconds to do a 360 and an enemy can throw and detonate 3 c5's before you can turn it 90 degrees. By design tanks are now placed to the rear of the front line or infantry, everything about them and their mechanics forces them there.
Then there's c4 drones that just received a speed buff.... if they aren't directly in front of your main cannon rarely can you do anything about them unless you already happened to be going in the opposite direction by luck, you cant accelerate away from them unless you see them come in from miles away, nor can you track your turret fast enough to hit them coming in from the side or rear. tanks are in a bad place, yes they are powerful and yes you can get 100kill rounds but they aren't fun anymore nor are they very effective at punching through the front line for the rest of the team.
- @AerialDominance What do classes have to do with this? If anything it’s easier to equip whatever you need to counter. Specialist have absolutely zero to do with this. Not the core issue.
For some reason people don’t want to concentrate on helicopters. Probably because it’s boring gameplay staring up at heli’s waiting for a lock.- @RaginSam All 'classes' now have access to their favourite gun and a rocket launcher at the same time.
So I for example get to use my LMG and carry an AT launcher whereas in previous games I could not do that.
Same can be said for medics and snipers so it stands to reason that there will be more AT launchers at any one time in the game especially when AT launchers are also useful at damaging enemy infantry and blowing holes through walls.
However anti air rocket launchers can't be used against enemy infantry or destruction so they will be equipped less than AT but will still be equipped more often due to no class restrictions.
However the tanks will be effected the most by this all class weapon approach.- @Tank2042Man You make some interesting points. Personally I’m mostly running Falck with ammo. I tend to stay alive longer per life than a lot of people. So I eventually run out of ammo. I also suppress a lot and will empty a mag into smoke. And if I carry anything but ammo I swear that nobody else does.
My problem is I need to find some good people to play with that are somewhat consistent. I’ve got a handful, but they’re a mix between Xbox and PC and it’s hard to coordinate at the moment.
@RaginSam wrote:
Probably because it’s boring gameplay staring up at heli’s waiting for a lock.And getting sniped/flanked while at it.
Every single time that I try to support my team by designating or locking on to some dangerous air vehicle that spams explosions, some random soldier is ready to take advantage of me being more exposed to avoid line of slight issues.
@Ti4_S4ndY wrote:
Campers may be limited if developers wouldn't give them unlimited ammo, just like they did at BFV.The limited ammo made camping worse because people had to be tethered to to the ammo stations
- @AerialDominance if there where the old classes you would change it when you die 2 times in a row when you get farmed by a vehicle
so it hass nothing to do with the specialist system at all
play and adapt was always a thing It is really frustrating when you are pushing to take an objective surrounded by sensors that reveal your position while the whole heavy vehicles are hiding and shooting out of bounds.
I think the long health regen is good enough for a fair play. Vehicles camping has nothing to do with class system or a "broken" game. Besides, recoiless rockets take forever to reload and the AA launcher takes another life to lock the objectives so there are no excuses.Campers are nothing more than that and their only vision of the game is just gain XP to level up.
Campers may be limited if developers wouldn't give them unlimited ammo, just like they did at BFV.
