vehicle time penalty.
yo. Since every one can be remote missile, i think having vehicle penalty is unfair. Another bugging thing that i have in bf is waiting. I freaking dodge them, good. But imo when i get 1 shotted or ...
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@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:Dude, there is no difference with 1 bullet hs vs 1 rocket that can be controlled and shot from inside. Difference is, there can be 30+ shooters and difference is time penalty.
There is a world of difference between infantry dying to bullets versus a heli dying to a TV missile.
Infantry have their set of pros/con's
Helis have their set of pros/con's.
They also have a set of similarities.
Because infantry and heli's are vulnerable to OHK does not mean heli pilots should be able to trade in one of their heli con's for an infantry pro.
Also infantry has penalties for dying beyond just the spawn timer. If I die as an infantry while attacking an objective then I still need to spend X seconds of downtime hiking back to that objective for another push.
If I kill an infantry player I can expect that I won't be seeing that player again for quite some time.
If I kill a heli with this proposed spawn timer removal the I could expect to see that heli again before the wreckage of the first heli even hit the ground.
X seconds and you are back in action. No matter if you spawn far away. Kinda your choice since theres transporters that fly around the map all the time.
But again, helos can be downed way faster and better than before, timer should be 2x shorter imo. + adding when newbye takes one and crashes it makes almost 5 mins of wait time.
@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:X seconds and you are back in action. No matter if you spawn far away. Kinda your choice since theres transporters that fly around the map all the time.
First, no there isnt. Second, Seats are full many times. 3rd, they arent always where the action is or where you wish to be.
But again, helos can be downed way faster and better than before, timer should be 2x shorter imo. + adding when newbye takes one and crashes it makes almost 5 mins of wait time.
Experience of the pilot is not a consideration of the spawn time. That is a ridiculous assignment. That being said, the speed at which Helis can be downed is because they were so OP. An 8 second timer for an infantry isnt much, but he can only kill 1 person at a time. Comparing an Infantry which can kill an infantry to a Heli which can kills 10 infantry at one time is obtuse. You continue to try and sell the Heli as not powerful, and you are just factually wrong. Many games, air pilots are not downed. They intercept TVs with buildings, hills, or just out maneuver them with their agility. You tell me youre a good pilot. Im not sure I agree. You seem to not be able to out maneuver incoming fire. I see it done all the time. I believe it was Echo who posted a video of it. I just cannot understand why you are having such an issue when others are not.
@Padding_Ur_StatsSo, you think its okay to wait helo 2-10 mins?
And still judges my piloting skills :D
And i'm not talking about TV only. RAM? MAA? STINGER? M5? TV? MAV? Other helo? Tranposter? Freaking TANK?
And quite frankly you don't fly, don't talk to me about dodging missile if you literally have no clue, i don't want to go there again.
@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:@Padding_Ur_StatsSo, you think its okay to wait helo 2-10 mins?
Yes, for a vehicle that has a 10-1 kill ratio, yes. Having them spawn faster would be hugely impacting.
And still judges my piloting skills :DComparing to other pilots I have witnessed. All players see how pilots fly, how they maneuver. One doesnt have to fly to look up and say, man.... that guy is good or, wow, Im getting on Lis and farming that dude.
And i'm not talking about TV only. RAM? MAA? STINGER? M5? TV? MAV? Other helo? Tranposter? Freaking TANK?Funny, Infantry face every vehicle, you dont seem to take that into consideration.
And quite frankly you don't fly, don't talk to me about dodging missile if you literally have no clue, i don't want to go there again.+I do have a clue. I T1'd Lis without using those XP portals. Ive witnessed it. So, I will go there. You do not control how I respond.
In the end, you add all sorts of data as if the TBird is the only one who has all those exposures to being 1 hit. Guess what, the infantry have all the same risks. The irony is, Infantry get hit by missiles too. I cannot tell you how many times as a sniper I get hit with a Lis missile, a recoil or some other form or propelled 1 shotting. The difference between Infantry and the TBird is the incredible difference in Kill potential, in Map control Potential. All of which you ignore in your 1v1 comparisons. Comparing a TBird to an Infanty is comparing a Pea Shooter to a 30mm GAU-A8 Avenger Gatling-type Autocannon
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