vehicles are overpowered
Plz nerf the health of vehicle its honestly getting annoying when u die more to vehicles than guns, like if u miss even a single shot with the recoilless u can't destroy most of the vehicles with gun...
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I'm genuinely curious as to why you want to play Battlefield, is it just for the infantry combat?
BF2042 has less vehicles than any BF title to date, how much more "balance" are you looking for?
@Ironhead841I have always played mostly infantry since BF3 (probably started playing BF "a lot" with BF4).
While I understand that vehicles are important for BF-games, I think that playing mostly as infantry is a total valid way of playing the game.
The problem is that the game-design of 2042 makes vehicles a problem. Even though they are perhaps not as strong as in BF4, they dominate mostly because the map-design is a joke in 2042.
Again, my argument is that most of the players at any given time are playing as infantry (by far). Infantry are often the ones PTFOing (which is fundamental to BF-Conquest) and making their life too miserably with vehicles is bad game-design.
I don't think the number of vehicles in 2042 is less than ever. BF1/BFV had less vehicles. And every vehicle in 2042 - even transports - have explosive ammunition (cannons).
The number of offensive vehicles in 2042 has increased compared to previous titles - half the transports are not just transports. And while the number of players have increased as well, the increase in number of vehicles scales very badly, especially with the bad maps in 2042.
If I remember correctly Infantry only servers on Strike at Karkand in BF2 were extremely popular back in the day. I for one played it a lot because I did get tired of being destroyed by vehicles. I think that is why Metro and Lockdown were so popular as well. So there are people that enjoy infantry-only BF. But vehicles in 2042 are very underpowered. So many ways to take them out now.
- @cso7777The love for, and success of, Metro and Locker show that infy only gameplay is popular and a part of Battlefield. Since 1942 where you could pilot a Battleship to Normandy, or a sub, or a fricking aircraft carrier…. Vehicles have been a big part of BF. They haven’t found the right vehicle balance, as you point out the maps themselves are a big part of that. They still have work to do. The last thing they need however is to further nerf the vehicles. Hinds / Corsairs could probably still do with a nerf to their HP, but otherwise they’ve basically gutted vehicles. The conclusion I’ve come to from your posts is really that maps need to be better, not that vehicles have no place. If we all wanted a game without vehicles, those games already exist (cough, COD, cough). The majority of players are here for combined arms, and that should not change. I agree with you that the maps need to be more suitable for combined arms, and that those who drive vehicles need to PTFO which is where they shine.
- @cso7777 This comes from someone who clearly doesn't play any vehicles, and doesn't understand the balance.
The balance goes as such - Any vehicle besides transports, EBCL-RAM and Stealth helis is frankly useless.
MBTs and Wildcat are too slow, their cannon is too weak and there are too many people with rocket launchers and grenade launchers. If you come 200m within the objective, you will be quckly screwed by the rockets.
Attack choppers are the same thing. Slow, rockets are weak, gunner autocannon is weaker than 30mm cannon on transport jeeps
Littlebird is only good at farming infantry and can easily be taken out by a decent team since Stinger one-shots the pilot most of the time. so it's either running from every rocket and not being as "OP", or getting oneshot.
Rest are not nearly as OP as BF3/4 Helis and Jets. Those things were so oppressive, people often went on 100+ streaks with them. In BF2042 people do 50-60 kills on a very good run against potatoes- @UP_LordPlumber I get your points about vehicles being "weak" compared to BF3/4 - I played especially BF4 a lot and know that very well (thermals are luckily not in 2042).
My main issue with 2042 is the map design. In older titles you had the option of moving around the map as infantry and mostly avoid vehicles, because of the layout of terrain, buildings etc. Most BF2042 maps feels like playing Golmud Railway/Silk road, which are not really the most interesting maps in BFs history.
Also having the one-size-fits-all approach to the number of vehicles are a big change compared to older titles where the number of vehicles varied a lot from map to map.
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@UP_LordPlumberI get your points about vehicles being "weak" compared to BF3/4 - I played especially BF4 a lot and know that very well (thermals are luckily not in 2042).
My main issue with 2042 is the map design. In older titles you had the option of moving around the map as infantry and mostly avoid vehicles, because of the layout of terrain, buildings etc. Most BF2042 maps feels like playing Golmud Railway/Silk road, which are not really the most interesting maps in BFs history.
Also having the one-size-fits-all approach to the number of vehicles are a big change compared to older titles where the number of vehicles varied a lot from map to map.the only vehicle that is so OP it is broken is the stealth helo and it is just going to get worse when they take the stinger away from Rao
