@SH3RWOODK1NG wrote:I'm very reluctantly accepting that specialists are clearly here to stay. Especially since leaving them in Hazard Zone was a great "get out of jail free" card for them to just chuck them all in there and still meet the promised "specialist per season" pledge. But now that they're abandoning that, they are going to keep forcing them down the fans throats it seems.
Absolutely gutted that DICE/EA have destroyed my favourite gaming series (I didn't even mind BFV) and won't be buying a future BF after this if it has specialists. At the v least, BF2042 is the game that has thoroughly taught me the "don't pre-order" lesson. All these promises of a love letter to the fans and the great trailer were just deceit and lies.
I think BF2042 has taught us all a valuable lesson regarding pre-orders.
All the trust I had built up over many years has evaporated since the release of BF2042.
The next game will need to revert back to true BF roots or I will not be interested.
@SirBobdk wrote:
@RayD_O1
I think BF2042 has taught us all a valuable lesson regarding pre-orders.
All the trust I had built up over many years has evaporated since the release of BF2042.
The next game will need to revert back to true BF roots or I will not be interested.
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I`m on the same page.
I learned it after BFV and did not preorder BF2042, which has proven to be a good choice.
Unfortunately, people still want to preorder for early access and the belief that they are getting something extra.
Like BF 2042 I will decide based on playing the beta and revievs. Will never trust anything that comes from EA / Dice marketing again.
You certainly made the right decision and BF2042 will have taught us all the need to exercise restraint when it comes to pre-ordering again in the future.
@SirBobdk wrote:
I`m on the same page.
I learned it after BFV and did not preorder BF2042, which has proven to be a good choice.
Unfortunately, people still want to preorder for early access and the belief that they are getting something extra.
Like BF 2042 I will decide based on playing the beta and revievs. Will never trust anything that comes from EA / Dice marketing again.
Just to reiterate this, but many (most?) people did not pre-order just to get something extra. Given the marketing and trailers they all 'knew' that getting the game is a safe bet as it was portrait to be almost exactly what players were looking for after 2 WW titles. Look back at what they showed -- gritty BF style environments, even a Rendezook, NO mention of this being a hero shooter.
So we all expected something else. As we were all sold a LIE (no other word for what they pulled with the marketing stunts and trailer if you ask me).
We pre-ordered ... and to avoid getting punished with "delayed access" when getting the standard edition. They also made the Beta phase pretty short to ensure the 'pressure' to get access to it earlier to be able to play 4 instead of just 2 evenings.
Then came the Beta and this showed the game is far from in a state that is 'ready for release' (but luckily the version we played was 'a months old build').
And yes, we should have known better and have canceled our pre-orders. But if you know some psychology then there is an effect (forgot the name) in which if you once invested into something, then your are MUCH less likely to back down on the decision, even if you think it might have been a wrong one.
Dice/EA might be liars, but they are not stupid and know how to exploit that part of the human psyche. It seems to have worked quite well.
@SirBobdkPersonally I only eventually caved in to pre order when I decided that I would play anyway due to almost everyone in the UP platoon getting it so I would get a return for my investment.
It I was without a platoon, I would had waited for reviews and a discount.
In any case I did not had higher expectations than what we got since we had the BFV precedent.
In fact I am puzzled by how any people who were in touch with how BFV unfolded had any high expectations for 2042.
@LlamaWithKatana wrote:
@UP_Hawxxeyeto be fair bf v was not that bad. At least in regards of flow and movement it was and still is brilliant. PR on other hand was a disaster.
This, PR was a disaster, so was the live service, but the game itself still had the BF core. 2042 has no BF core, worse physics, worse graphics, worse performance and is just a bad game.
