What did Casper do to you?

@Psubond Didn't think about that but that could well work.

Edit: Wildcat targets them with AA missiles too.

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/L9KFYXW9

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@ElliotLH wrote:

@PsubondDidn't think about that but that could well work.

Edit: Wildcat targets them with AA missiles too.

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/L9KFYXW9

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This dev team needs to learn that balance can be achieved without taking Thor's hammer to things. A first step would have been allowing them to be locked onto by various means and maybe increasing their hitbox size a bit. Instead now they fly slower and have a useless range.

Absolute clownery 

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@kregora wrote:
@PsubondI agree, but I get the "10xp Equipment destroyed" quite often, what makes me believe there might be something else, that attracts the grenades.

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probably sentry guns, those things are everywhere and i think they give 10exp (or at least they used to)

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@Psubond wrote:

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@kregora wrote:
@PsubondI agree, but I get the "10xp Equipment destroyed" quite often, what makes me believe there might be something else, that attracts the grenades.

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probably sentry guns, those things are everywhere and i think they give 10exp (or at least they used to)

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Sentry guns sound make sense. Maybe even Ranger too.

@ElliotLH

I need to try it again but it seems that the A2G missiles now target drones. Don't think they did pre-update.

No you couldn't.  In fact, you couldnt naturally spot a drone unless it was marked by a SOFLAM or another Drone.   Now, they have red dots on them at all times.   In the week after this patch, 29% of all my drones were destroyed at launch.   Think about that for a moment.  The key ability of a specialist fails at take off almost 30% of the time.   Doesnt Falck fail to heal 30% of the time?  Does Mackays grappling hook fail to latch, does Boris' gun fail to deploy? 

The range of the drone was dropped from 250 meters to 130 meters.  

Is Mackay's hook range halved?  The range of the sensor on Boris' gun or range of shot?

Casper didnt get a nerf hammer, he got a nerf nuke.   The only real reason to play Casper now is if youre in a green map, a sniper because of your sensor suit.  If you dont have anything that matches the terrain, he isnt even a good choice for snipers.  

The worst part of all this is the Drone's importance or power was greatly overstated.  The nerf seems heavy handed, and done just to do something for some community whining. 

@Psubondlol, the C5 thing was a low % farm. Most of the time, you didnt get credit. Other times, the vehicle didnt get destroyed. If you truly want vehicle farm, get airborne.

The drone vehicle farm was hyperbole from armor drivers

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@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:

@ElliotLH

No you couldn't.  In fact, you couldnt naturally spot a drone unless it was marked by a SOFLAM or another Drone.   Now, they have red dots on them at all times.   In the week after this patch, 29% of all my drones were destroyed at launch.   Think about that for a moment.  The key ability of a specialist fails at take off almost 30% of the time.   Doesnt Falck fail to heal 30% of the time?  Does Mackays grappling hook fail to latch, does Boris' gun fail to deploy? 

The range of the drone was dropped from 250 meters to 130 meters.  

Is Mackay's hook range halved?  The range of the sensor on Boris' gun or range of shot?

Casper didnt get a nerf hammer, he got a nerf nuke.   The only real reason to play Casper now is if youre in a green map, a sniper because of your sensor suit.  If you dont have anything that matches the terrain, he isnt even a good choice for snipers.  

The worst part of all this is the Drone's importance or power was greatly overstated.  The nerf seems heavy handed, and done just to do something for some community whining. 

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Honestly even though I defended the c5 drone and used it as a creative means of fighting vehicles, it reached  at a point where I decided it was plain evil to do to tanks.

Even I personally avoided using tanks due to the chance to being instantly deleted.

The armored vehicles in this game are too weak for such a menace as it was pre 4.0.

@UP_Hawxxeye

Honestly even though I defended the c5 drone and used it as a creative means of fighting vehicles, it reached at a point where I decided it was plain evil to do to tanks.

Even I personally avoided using tanks due to the chance to being instantly deleted.

The armored vehicles in this game are too weak for such a menace as it was pre 4.0.

You mean like tanks instantly delete ground and lessor vehicles?  Complaining about instant delete while driving armor and farming ground troops is a bit hypocritical

You also could get deleted by aircraft.  AND!!! Considering tanks drive faster then drones, youre only risk is if youre a tank camper farming an objective. (B2 on discarded)

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@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:

@Psubondlol, the C5 thing was a low % farm. Most of the time, you didnt get credit. Other times, the vehicle didnt get destroyed. If you truly want vehicle farm, get airborne.

The drone vehicle farm was hyperbole from armor drivers

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the drone spotting is an easy mode exp farm (especially in breakthrough) which is why people like it so much.  i wasn't talking about c5 which is why i said ignoring the c5 thing

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@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:

@UP_Hawxxeye

>You mean like tanks instantly delete ground and lessor vehicles?  Complaining about instant delete while driving armor and farming ground troops is a bit hypocritical

You also could get deleted by aircraft.  AND!!! Considering tanks drive faster then drones, youre only risk is if youre a tank camper farming an objective. (B2 on discarded)

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I used to  think like that but it is not the camping tanks (who are often either out of range or not the first choice of the casper) that are the most affected but the more aggressive tanks who increase their risk to maximize their contribution of their team. Think about it. If you are flying a drone, would you go for the tank that is closest to your location or the one that may be out of the signal range?

No team worth any damn will let a tank farm them between the m5 spam + the C5 and now the fixed Anti armor grenades (I am not counting the AT rifle because it is garbage vs tanks).  I am not talking about the jets much because they are rarely used compared to the rotor aircraft in this game. I found that one can counter the  AGM missiles by exiting the vehicle before the lock on is over which breaks the lock-ons anyway.

The hovercraft and the Bolte gave people a lot of trouble due to their speed and numbers. The tanks on the other hand are both severely limited in numbers and much slower and can be slowed even more with modular damage.

I am not having a vested interest in any particular part of the game. I do infantry, I tank, I fly etc. I want them all to have their balanced fun compared to their availability.

I used to think like that but it is not the camping tanks (who are often either out of range or not the first choice of the casper) that are the most affected but the more aggressive tanks who increase their risk to maximize their contribution of their team. Think about it. If you are flying a drone, would you go for the tank that is closest to your location or the one that may be out of the signal range?

The aggressive tanks were taken care of by the Recoil or Aircover.  Tanks moved faster then the drone.  Very Few flag camped.  Those were new drivers and the learned fast.   The easiest targets were zone campers.  They stayed in their starting areas and unloaded on nearby zones.   Even those were difficult to blow because you had about 8 seconds of being out of bounds.

No team worth any damn will let a tank farm them between the m5 spam + the C5 and now the fixed Anti armor grenades (I am not counting the AT rifle because it is garbage vs tanks). I am not talking about the jets much because they are rarely used compared to the rotor aircraft in this game. I found that one can counter the AGM missiles by exiting the vehicle before the lock on is over which breaks the lock-ons anyway.

The games are not showing this.  Just got out of breakaway.   Vehicles motionless unloading on zones.   The only moving vehicles were Bolte's.   That is their power.  If what youre saying is true, Mobility would be primary preservation tactic, and they just arent moving now.

The hovercraft and the Bolte gave people a lot of trouble due to their speed and numbers. The tanks on the other hand are both severely limited in numbers and much slower and can be slowed even more with modular damage.

Neither were greatly affected by Drones.

I am not having a vested interest in any particular part of the game. I do infantry, I tank, I fly etc. I want them all to have their balanced fun compared to their availability.

Whether conscious of not, since the patch, Big armor is pretty much flag camping or zone camping.   Drones are pretty much nonexistent.  I posted my stats earlier in this thread.

It is nothing more the World of Armor and Air now. If youre not driving, youre dying.

I Uninstalled the game.

@Padding_Ur_Statseach to their own I am having a blast driving jeeps and quads with c5 and t-boning tanks who are looking another way as a payback for killing me earlier.

I have not even tried the new trick with the updated Grappling hook to get to the tank roof + c5 in style.

A Tank takes like 4 M5s to blow up. If that cannot be accomplished by 32-64 people then it is a team problem

I’d be interested in a hardcore/extreme mode where gadgets and counter measures are closure to instant kill. 

forcing a covert style of play for infantry and a “oh god where are they” for vehicles.

the current setup is, imho, geared around an infantry style of run and gun, rather than actuall tactical thinking, laying in wait, etc.

unfortunately that would require significant updates to map layouts to give infantry more options.