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@AutotitansMouse and keyboard support + input based matchmaking would genuinely transform this game. All the other stuff about specialists/classes/balance etc. all pale into comparison to the giant issue that input disparities creates. The game just simply is not fun on consoles, at all.
Battlefield games always have longer engagement ranges than other shooters which is why it has always confused me that it also has by far the weakest aim assist. However, in previous titles, you’ve only been playing against people with the same input deficiencies as you. Now in BF2042 we have cross-play against PC AND 128 player maps that are larger and have even less cover so the engagement ranges are even longer than your typical Battlefield.
All these factors add up to a disastrous experience for console players.
This is a big missed opportunity for EA because a lot of PC players bought consoles recently due to the state of the GPU market. If console actually played well, they’d sell a tonne of $70 copies of the game to ex-PC players.
I think many (like me) are now starting to look at Vanguard and wonder whether that’s a better option since it offers mouse and keyboard support.
@lucky_dutch+1 I've been playing COD warzone for months on Xbox w/ kb&m, it's fantastic! It feels just like a PC you cannot tell the difference in game. I'm still terrible at the game and I get see destroyed by players on Console/ controller all the time but I'm able to play with my PC friends again without thousands of dollars spent on a new PC. I feel ashamed for purchasing BF2042 just assuming kb&m support would be there. I literally played one match on controller and gave up.. back to COD until they right this wrong.
- 4 years ago
If you think 2042 they an have an unfair advantage you should try Halo Infinite Multiplayer against PC with Halos crazy long TTK, its even more evident there as multiple accurate hits become even more important and M&K destroy controller in that, and its been said crossplay will be locked on for the life of that game
Crossplay should be between consoles only
- HillbillyJohn4 years agoSeasoned Veteran@FG44141 I thought Halo Infinite had input based matchmaking?
- 4 years ago
@HillbillyJohnNot that I know of when I've been playing it. In the team chat I've been on teams with people on pc playing with keyboard and communicated with opposite team afterword to confirm what they were using etc.
EDIT: Just checked input based matchmaking is in Ranked solo only.
It's meant to have SBMM but most matches I've been in have monster team stomps with multiple people on teams having 12-17 KDA so that obv is not working right
- 4 years ago@FG44141 I need to try the new Halo, I think it also supports kb&m on console. I've never tried any of the Halo multiplayer only played through some campaigns on coop
- 4 years ago
@MTFULemmingYou should try it, it's great, funny leading up to release everyone panned the graphics, but it turns out the graphics are miles ahead of 2042.
As a BF veteran the only thing that annoys me is the super long TTK in Halo so taking on multiple enemies at a time is almost impossible, you got to try and get a player 1v1 a lot of time in battle.
There is a custom mode you can create and you can set the TTK yourself me and some friends set the TTK to half and this game was absolutely incredible!
I wish they would do that to the main mode but obviously the Halo fan base like it where it is and unlike Dice, they listen to their fan base rather than being tone deaf
- TankerFlanker4 years agoSeasoned Ace
@FG44141"and its been said crossplay will be locked on for the life of that game" You chitin me? I'm starting to hate it BECAUSE of crossplay with PC and their BS pinpoint accuracy jumping and everything, getting lasered with the BR almost across the map, also much easier for them using the power weapons/vehicle gun accuracy as well.
- 4 years ago
I play on the XSX, and the only way that I have worked around this issue is to downgrade to the Xbox One. Atleast that way, its consoles only lobbies. However, we shouldn't have to downgrade to improve our experience. Now im missing out on good graphics and bigger maps, and better battles. Idk what DICE was thinking....
- 4 years ago
@MTFULemming wrote:@lucky_dutch+1 I've been playing COD warzone for months on Xbox w/ kb&m, it's fantastic! It feels just like a PC you cannot tell the difference in game. I'm still terrible at the game and I get see destroyed by players on Console/ controller all the time but I'm able to play with my PC friends again without thousands of dollars spent on a new PC. I feel ashamed for purchasing BF2042 just assuming kb&m support would be there. I literally played one match on controller and gave up.. back to COD until they right this wrong.
Sorry to hear that you feel you wasted your money.
It might improve in time but I think this is probably one of the games where you revisit it again in a year.
I don’t personally like the gameplay of warzone but they do handle crossplay very well. Controllers get a very strong aim assist that works well even at long ranges and all players have access to keyboard and mouse, if they prefer that.
Net result is that people play what they prefer and everyone is happy. Controllers probably have a slight advantage at shorter ranges with the aim assist but mouse is still way better for sniping. Rock Paper Scissors balance.
- 4 years ago@lucky_dutch I absolutely agree. Being a long time BF player, I think the thing I don't care for about Warzone is the every squad for themselves vs BF where it's two teams fighting. That dynamic just feels weird to me, but my squad has won a handful of times and that is very satisfying and keeps you coming back
- GrizzGolf3 years agoSeasoned Ace
I think console players kill me faster than PC players
- 3 years ago
What is clear is that more and more people think the same. Console gamers don't want to play against pc gamers and more and more pc gamers don't want to play against console gamers.
The solution would be as easy as implementing what currently exists in Apex: play with your platform, all consoles or all (pc included). Very easy solution and everyone happy.
- 4 years ago@MTFULemming https://battlefield2042kbm.com/ Spread the word
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