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If I'm not mistaken, the official Portal servers will allow progression beyond just XP. It's the player-created custom Portal servers that don't which is a real shame.
How are the devs blameless? They were the ones who were supposed to have the protections in place to help mitigate this problem but it was clear they didn't. Thomas Anderson even went over this in an interview months ago with Jack Frags. He obviously couldn't reveal any details but they were aware this could be an exploit and said protections would be in place to handle it.
Obviously the cheaters are guilty of exploiting Portal with their farms but the rest of us have to pay the price for the developers lack of action to put protections in place to help prevent such behavior. There is a level of culpability on their part here for this particular problem and responsibility of EA / DICE to deal with such issues in their games. ....cheaters, hackers, exploiters, harassment, etc.
What gets me is that after the fact they implemented an XP cap that is based on minute by minute activity. However, they still won't allow full progression of Mastery, etc. Why they can't apply similar logic to those is beyond me. It would better than what we have which is nothing. ....except XP of course.
- DominickB34 years agoSeasoned Ace@Kean_1111 It's a custom game mode that you enter the code to create and play. So the restrictions are in full effect for it.
The featured game modes at the front screen are full progression, but the one their twitter advertises isn't one of those.- Kean_11114 years agoSeasoned Ace
@DominickB3 wrote:
@Kean_1111It's a custom game mode that you enter the code to create and play. So the restrictions are in full effect for it.
The featured game modes at the front screen are full progression, but the one their twitter advertises isn't one of those.Ah, I see. I misunderstood. Thought it was an official server for some reason.
- 4 years ago
@Kean_1111 wrote:If I'm not mistaken, the official Portal servers will allow progression beyond just XP. It's the player-created custom Portal servers that don't which is a real shame.
How are the devs blameless? They were the ones who were supposed to have the protections in place to help mitigate this problem but it was clear they didn't. Thomas Anderson even went over this in an interview months ago with Jack Frags. He obviously couldn't reveal any details but they were aware this could be an exploit and said protections would be in place to handle it.
Obviously the cheaters are guilty of exploiting Portal with their farms but the rest of us have to pay the price for the developers lack of action to put protections in place to help prevent such behavior. There is a level of culpability on their part here for this particular problem and responsibility of EA / DICE to deal with such issues in their games. ....cheaters, hackers, exploiters, harassment, etc.
What gets me is that after the fact they implemented an XP cap that is based on minute by minute activity. However, they still won't allow full progression of Mastery, etc. Why they can't apply similar logic to those is beyond me. It would better than what we have which is nothing. ....except XP of course.
I never said they are blameless, but a lot of this goes to toward the people who were boosting. Yes they said they had protections in place, antivirus software is there to protect your computer yet people still get viruses, does that mean that if you get a virus it is the company's fault not the person who opened the bogus email to a shady link? The point I am getting at is you can never make something rock solid, if someone has a will to circumvent the system then they will find a way to find a exploit. We see it with antivirus and anticheat software all the time.
They had something, they didn't think people where going to do what they did. So now because some took advantage of the situation, they had to limit it for all....it happens in life all the time.
- 4 years ago@VBALL_MVP To add to your people will find a way to circumvent, DICE also said you wouldn't be able to make a battle royal mode in Portal but someone found a way to make one.
- 4 years ago
Darn it, also replied to a older post.....
There is one thing I like to change, stop putting me on the first page of the thread constantly.
- Kean_11114 years agoSeasoned Ace
@VBALL_MVP wrote:
@Kean_1111 wrote:If I'm not mistaken, the official Portal servers will allow progression beyond just XP. It's the player-created custom Portal servers that don't which is a real shame.
How are the devs blameless? They were the ones who were supposed to have the protections in place to help mitigate this problem but it was clear they didn't. Thomas Anderson even went over this in an interview months ago with Jack Frags. He obviously couldn't reveal any details but they were aware this could be an exploit and said protections would be in place to handle it.
Obviously the cheaters are guilty of exploiting Portal with their farms but the rest of us have to pay the price for the developers lack of action to put protections in place to help prevent such behavior. There is a level of culpability on their part here for this particular problem and responsibility of EA / DICE to deal with such issues in their games. ....cheaters, hackers, exploiters, harassment, etc.
What gets me is that after the fact they implemented an XP cap that is based on minute by minute activity. However, they still won't allow full progression of Mastery, etc. Why they can't apply similar logic to those is beyond me. It would better than what we have which is nothing. ....except XP of course.
I never said they are blameless, but a lot of this goes to toward the people who were boosting. Yes they said they had protections in place, antivirus software is there to protect your computer yet people still get viruses, does that mean that if you get a virus it is the company's fault not the person who opened the bogus email to a shady link? The point I am getting at is you can never make something rock solid, if someone has a will to circumvent the system then they will find a way to find a exploit. We see it with antivirus and anticheat software all the time.
They had something, they didn't think people where going to do what they did. So now because some took advantage of the situation, they had to limit it for all....it happens in life all the time.
I say this because it comes off like you're placing all the blame on the offenders whenever you add your opinion on the subject as you did in this thread.
"I said it once and I will say it again, you want to be mad, be mad at the people who abused the system and ruined it for you....not the creators who had to put extra rules in their game to prevent people from doing something that was not intended to happen."
The point is that they discussed this prior to the game launching and said that they were taking measures to mitigate the problem. They identified that this was an issue of concern and were going to implement a system. It was obvious that as soon as we started hearing about these farms that either the protections in place completely failed or there were none to begin with. There was nothing preventing people from farming XP, unlocks, etc.
Of course the offenders are to blame but EA / DICE also have a responsibility as well on this front. There's never going to be a surefire method to prevent cheaters, hackers, etc., but they have an obligation to try and help prevent the problem. .....there was no such effort in Portal.
In either case, I still don't see why they can't simply apply a similar cap on the progression of the Mastery unlocks and so on. They are now monitoring XP to limit the amount earned per minute. The same could be applied to the rest at least until a more viable, fair-for-all option is found.
People that buy antivirus software expect that there will be some lapses in protection because people are always finding ways to circumvent those security measures. ....but there is an obligation from these company to provide the best and latest protection they can. With Portal, it's obvious they didn't even try to prevent farming even after knowing it would be used in this fashion.