How did the UI get over budget? Why so many issues with a simple thing as that?was it the plus menu? Or the game menu? there wasn’t even a scoreboard until later on.

@WedgeTornado It's not the UI specifically. It's more the way the engine handles the UI. I fear Frostbite isn't going to be around much longer, it seems that it's becoming too difficult to develop on and they'll probably switch to something like UE5.

Why was the UI such a big issue for the devs? UI over budget?

25 Replies

Adamonic
Legend
4 years ago
@WedgeTornado BR and HZ didn't need much; no need for a scoreboard in BR or HZ. Last man or team standing. Just EOR screens.
kregora
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Adamonic It is not only the UI, everything is targeted at BR and HZ. And that is why the T1 skins make the specialists look like a dictators death squad as well.
FlibberMeister
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
I despise the UI, pretty much one of the three reasons I deleted 2042.
MortalitasWolf
4 years ago
@WedgeTornado It's not the UI specifically. It's more the way the engine handles the UI. I fear Frostbite isn't going to be around much longer, it seems that it's becoming too difficult to develop on and they'll probably switch to something like UE5.
kregora
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@MortalitasWolf Are there any real life multiplayer examples for UE5?
My last Unreal Engine experience in multiplayer environments was in Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, which used a variant of UE2. And that one had considerable issues with increasing number of mobs, including AI. Sure today we have considerable more powerful CPUs and GPUs, but we also expect a much higher quality of graphics.
While UE5 demos look amazing, so did the Anthem trailers and Starwas Battlefront 2 and BFV trailers. But Trailers, Demos and Movies are a different genre than multiplayer games.
RayD_O1
Hero
4 years ago
@kregora wrote:
@MortalitasWolfAre there any real life multiplayer examples for UE5?
My last Unreal Engine experience in multiplayer environments was in Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, which used a variant of UE2. And that one had considerable issues with increasing number of mobs, including AI. Sure today we have considerable more powerful CPUs and GPUs, but we also expect a much higher quality of graphics.
While UE5 demos look amazing, so did the Anthem trailers and Starwas Battlefront 2 and BFV trailers. But Trailers, Demos and Movies are a different genre than multiplayer games.
Yeah definitely a lot different, BF2042 being one such example of how different the trailer can be compared to the finished product.
MortalitasWolf
4 years ago
@kregora Not that I know of. I don't specifically think they'll end up using UE5, it's just an example. My main point is that Frostbite is causing real development issues and unless they put substantial resources into bringing the engine up to scratch then they'll end up switching to another engine.
kregora
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@MortalitasWolf But Frostbite was developed with multiplayer gaming in mind. Apparently it is difficult to work with, but the teams that struggled most with it are those that developed singleplayer content and small squad coop with it.
AI development might also be an issue.
WedgeTornado
4 years ago
@MortalitasWolf I heard in a podcast with a former dev that the vehicles were fine, criterion did awesome. But the little indicator(red dot) or whatever above the tank slowed the game down a ton. They had a swat team dedicated to fixing the UI.

Hopefully they switch to a third party engine for the next title but i dont think that will be easy either.
MortalitasWolf
4 years ago
@WedgeTornadoYes, I saw that yesterday as well! Ironically the info came from one of the contractor devs who said that the game was doing well and just needed more time, hence the several month delay. Ha! That worked out well!
https://twitter.com/jimhejl/status/1438788584178388995