gunplayNot very acceptable. The bullets of a large number of weapons now scatter in long-range combat, making it impossible to hit the enemy。 This kind of consecutive shooting punishment is not suitable for many non-traditional battlefield players or some battlefield players。 It is rumored that your production team is considering，Regarding further increasing scattering penalties to improve the so-called balance, this is unacceptable for many players who focus on aiming。 If there is hope for change, my suggestion is to reduce or maintain the current ballistic scattering

If we must achieve the so-called balance, it is recommended to increase the damage penalty of long-range shooting instead of continuing to increase the scattering of bullets. For many players, it's really hard to accept

Which is why it needs making harder to hit at longer ranges with everything but dmr and snipers.

To be honest, due to the influence of previous Battlefield series games. I don't think there are many or a huge number of players in the current Battlefield. I believe the developers also hope to add some new players. If the scatter penalty continues to increase, it will significantly increase the difficulty for new players to get started. I don't think this can make our already small user group bigger or more hopeful。 If we still need to consider the issue of balance, please don't add scattering anymore. We would rather increase recoil or damage attenuation, otherwise it will be too difficult for new players. Moreover, not everyone likes semi-automatic shooting in the mainstream shooting games now. I don't think encouraging point shooting is a good idea。 Battlefield III has achieved great success in the past, but many of its views are only favored by veteran Battlefield players rather than truly widely accepted

Guns need to be situational.Everyone that has played battlefield long enough had to learn this and when to tap fire and when to burst and when you can unload, positioning too, that's where alot of the skill in battlefield comes in, making correct decisions at the right time.Only dmr and sniper rifles should perform well over medium to long range, other guns should require either precise tap fire shots or closing the distance, doesn't matter how you change the way spread/recoil works that has to be the ultimate goal.Every game doesn't need to be for everyone either, I don't go over to the call of duty forums and moan if they made it like battlefield they would get loads of new players, do we just want a load of generic copy and paste shooters?Great new players would be happy, at the expense of loyal fans.

Let's have a rational discussion about which type of weapon allows players to get started faster: laser guns or burst-fire guns. Without a doubt, it's the laser gun. At this point, some might say that the signature feature of Battlefield is its bullet spread, which encourages players to use single-shot or burst-fire. However, for a game to build higher player retention, it needs to be easy to pick up while offering advanced techniques to practice later. I don’t believe increasing bullet spread makes the game more comfortable for new players. Spread affects everyone, not just the pros. Some might argue that being instantly killed in an open area is unhealthy gameplay, but Battlefield 6 maps are generally small with plenty of cover. Usually, when you’re engaging someone with controlled bursts in Battlefield 6, someone else will flank you from another direction. In contrast, previous Battlefield games had large open areas, so being killed in such spaces is more of a map design flaw.Different skill ceilings and floors: Other FPS games are easier to pick up, with a low skill floor but also a respectable skill ceiling. Battlefield, on the other hand, requires a steep learning curve, forcing players to abandon traditional shooting mechanics. Its high skill floor comes with a limited ceiling—burst-fire simply doesn’t allow you to take down multiple enemies in two to three seconds. Some might say that getting kills with burst-fire is more satisfying, but for newcomers, killing more enemies is undoubtedly more rewarding.Server issues: EA’s servers occasionally suffer from hit registration problems and high latency, with ping sometimes at 50 and other times at 200. These regional disparities are almost impossible to fix. Rather than nerfing skilled players, improving the game’s servers should be the priority.Nature of the game: Other games offer not only large-scale battles but also entertainment, social features, and competitive elements, including ranked systems that Battlefield lacks. Battlefield’s entertainment value falls short compared to other FPS games, its competitiveness is on par, and its social aspects are virtually nonexistent. Unless friends invite me to play, I hardly touch Battlefield. Battlefield 6 might see changes in the future, but based on my current experience, this is how it is. So, when a complete newcomer to FPS encounters two options—one that’s simple and easy to pick up, and another that requires significant time and effort to master—which one are they more likely to choose? Unless they’re masochists, who would willingly become cannon fodder in the latter? Not all FPS players are beginners, but Battlefield players tend to have some prior FPS experience. Uncertainty about past games: I’m not entirely sure about the bullet spread in Battlefield 3 and 4, but if Battlefield 6’s burst-fire had high damage output, I’d agree with using or practicing short bursts. The problem is that Battlefield 6 is designed for close-quarters combat with short TTK (time to kill). Under these conditions, being picked off from a distance is relatively rare, as players don’t often need to traverse large open areas (with the exception of maps like Operation Metro). Given that assault rifles and SMGs typically take five shots to kill at any range,If scattering increases, it would be almost impossible to secure kills at medium to long distances. Comparison to CS:GO: Many people note that CS:GO also has bullet spread, but why isn’t it criticized as heavily? Because the payoff for mastering its weapons is greater. Player retention： Some argue that the reason Battlefield has endured is because each installment retains its player base, but it’s often the same group of players. EA occasionally discounts the game to attract new players, but they leave shortly after. Can this really be called high player retention? Market trends: Given current mainstream preferences, I believe most players would choose laser guns. The firing pattern required for short bursts is different from most FPS games. In my view, the tracking needed for short bursts is essentially the same as the recoil control required for sustained fire. Both involve tracking—so why must the developers force players to use burst-fire?In a game like Battlefield, which lacks any meaningful reward system, retaining players is the biggest challenge. If EA wants to expand its audience, it should focus on optimizing the game rather than the players. Damage drop-off over distance could easily address these issues. Some claim that bullet spread isn’t the same as random bullet deviation, but I ask: how is it different? Beyond a certain point, isn’t it essentially the same? Whether it’s a coding difference or a fundamental logic difference, it all comes down to luck. I’d dare say that only veteran players enjoy burst-fire mechanics.EA could introduce both modes: one with the current mechanics and one with optimized mechanics, allowing players to choose which they prefer.

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20 Replies

taihao1
Seasoned Newcomer
3 days ago
If we must achieve the so-called balance, it is recommended to increase the damage penalty of long-range shooting instead of continuing to increase the scattering of bullets. For many players, it's really hard to accept
cementerydriver
Rising Veteran
3 days ago
Agree, scattering of bullets when aiming is bad, don't mind it as much when you are not aiming or full auto. Best solution as stated before is to decrease dmg based on distance for guns that shouldn't be able to hit far if bullet spread is staying
R1ckyDaMan19
Seasoned Ace
3 days ago
Just tap fire, there's a reason you can switch fire modes.
Go play bf3 and try to hit a long distance target without tap firing.
cementerydriver
Rising Veteran
3 days ago
I know the tap fire, technically you don't need to switch fire mode to make it work like full auto + you get the benefit of not recoil or bullet spread increasing but thats the problem cause guns like the DMR that are single fire lose completely on long range engagement when they should have better performance.
R1ckyDaMan19
Seasoned Ace
3 days ago
Which is why it needs making harder to hit at longer ranges with everything but dmr and snipers.
taihao1
Seasoned Newcomer
2 days ago
To be honest, due to the influence of previous Battlefield series games. I don't think there are many or a huge number of players in the current Battlefield. I believe the developers also hope to add some new players. If the scatter penalty continues to increase, it will significantly increase the difficulty for new players to get started. I don't think this can make our already small user group bigger or more hopeful。 If we still need to consider the issue of balance, please don't add scattering anymore. We would rather increase recoil or damage attenuation, otherwise it will be too difficult for new players. Moreover, not everyone likes semi-automatic shooting in the mainstream shooting games now. I don't think encouraging point shooting is a good idea。 Battlefield III has achieved great success in the past, but many of its views are only favored by veteran Battlefield players rather than truly widely accepted
R1ckyDaMan19
Seasoned Ace
2 days ago
Guns need to be situational.
Everyone that has played battlefield long enough had to learn this and when to tap fire and when to burst and when you can unload, positioning too, that's where alot of the skill in battlefield comes in, making correct decisions at the right time.
Only dmr and sniper rifles should perform well over medium to long range, other guns should require either precise tap fire shots or closing the distance, doesn't matter how you change the way spread/recoil works that has to be the ultimate goal.
Every game doesn't need to be for everyone either, I don't go over to the call of duty forums and moan if they made it like battlefield they would get loads of new players, do we just want a load of generic copy and paste shooters?
Great new players would be happy, at the expense of loyal fans.
taihao1
Seasoned Newcomer
2 days ago
I think this is a trade-off issue. As you believe, different firearms need to have different shooting effects in different situations. However, we believe that in order to achieve this possibility, we support achieving more damage attenuation or maximum recoil, giving people a better or simpler way to improve themselves. The so-called good feedback of shooting level。 As a brand new great work, Battlefield 6 inevitably represents the acceptance of new players besides traditional Battlefield players, which is also an important point for the production team to expand their profits. I don't think it's a very normal rule to only be loyal to old users when raising the threshold 。 The Battlefield series is already a very old series, and most of the so-called Battlefield players no longer come from Battlefield III and Battlefield IV, On the contrary, there are many players from Battlefield One and Battlefield Five These players are not interested in mechanisms such as random bullet scattering。 Most of these players are not proficient in ballistic scattering during shooting， Moreover, such a setting would give semi-automatic and sniper rifles a significant advantage on the battlefield, making the battlefield environment, which was already prone to evolving into a sniper confrontation, even worse。 Just as the skill of sliding shovel has been widely accepted in most FPS games, we can see that except for FPS games like CS Go 2, This type of game has very high shooting rewards and headshot damage, which is why high scattering is widely accepted. In addition, there are rarely cases of aiming with the scope in the original game mechanism. In other games, most firearms have very small walks. I think the feedback from players who can use suppression to hit long-range enemies is also very pleasing
Skitzotech
New Rookie
2 days ago
cod / controller player thread. (kidding)
there is a spread bug. .. it happened to me sometimes 5+ times per game. so some of the MASSIVE spread that may stand out to you was likely the spread bug.

to fix the bug you had to slide once.
taihao1
Seasoned Newcomer
22 hours ago
OK bro. If this is due to a bug, then I look forward to making an official fix and hope that there will be no further increase in scattering range. This may already be the most balanced way for players' gaming experience。