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maddtek
Rising Novice
1 month ago

Blatant Match Manipulation

This is without a doubt the first time Ive ever accused a developer of egregious, obvious, blatant, match manipulation.

I've been playing shooters for a long time and I've never seen so many 500+ point swings in my life.

It's so obvious what's going on and its nothing less than match manipulation.  When a team jumps out to a 200-300 point lead people start quitting.  So the developers backfill the match with people who are level 250+ and clearly haven't wiped in months let alone seen grass.

Then before you know it you're now losing.  I especially like when the match starts and its mostly console on console but then you look towards the end of the match and shocker half the other team now has level 250+ PC players.

There is no way this is happening organically.  It is instead being orchestrated in the background by the developers.

If there is anything that will get me to quit this game its garbage like this.   

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  • N1bey_PT's avatar
    N1bey_PT
    Seasoned Traveler
    1 month ago

    you are losing because you see 300 point lead and people wanna farm KD instead of playing objective, then you see u are losing all the flags haha get good

  • BrekMarb's avatar
    BrekMarb
    New Adventurer
    1 month ago

    I've noticed this as well maddtek​ 

    You can be so far ahead that you think to yourself that there is no chance in H3ll that they can catch back up....but....somehow they do.

    I don't know if it's EA/Dice manipulating it or if it's the cheaters on the other side deciding to turn on their cr4p....it could actually be both.  But, during this switch, now you can't kill anyone.  Now, you're getting shot behind cover.  Now, even though you get the drop on someone, they turn around and kill you with one shot like you never even f'ing shot at them.  It's actually pathetic.  If EA/Dice is doing this, they need to f'ing stop.  If it's cheaters upping their cr4p, EA/Dice needs to shut it down.

    I absolutely h8te this game.  In fact, I don't know that I would even call it a game because the word "game" implies an equality of the rules.  This "game" has no f'ing rules.  

    Anyway, I figure I will maybe earn enough time in a month to burn this f***er from my hard-drive.  Let it be known that I will NOT fall for EA/Dice's B$ when their next cr4p comes out.  This is the very last $ they are getting from me.  There are too many free multiplayer games that are better and more fair than this one...ie, Fork Knife....Rachet League....etc.  EA/Dice should ban themselves from ever making an FPS ever again because they suck at it.  F*ck me for ever believing they were "going back to their roots".  

  • unfortunately its been normal in bf community for years brother.  and its the same bad actors since bc2.  a Ironically when I bring up teams,  I get flamesd in the chat ands they tell me to go back to cod.  I never played cod,  i'm a pc player all my life and I'm 45 years old.  I'm a bf player who came from cs years ago, who came from quake and unreal tournament.    When we tried to add back the team autobalance mods like bf2 and cs had back in the days,  the community was outraged.  cause "I want to play with my friends". was the mantra.  And they were against balanced team mods or server votes.  They attacked battalenet and the ea servers.    This woke ideology is why even valorant has ranked matches,  with premades of all skill levels lmao.  e-sports has never gotten major sponsorships,  cause they don't verify peoples identities.  that's the bottom line.   anti cheat is a myth,  you can't stop everyone from manipulating ratings, rankings, and matches, until society finally decides to really do something.  Verifying identities asnds throwing people in jail,  just like they would in real life.  Cuase the digital realm is really just an extension of the physical and society has not evolved enough to realize this.  I just hope it doesn't take world disaster to awaken to it.   Comey turned a blind eye to all the booter kids for years cause he said they just kids,  or,  "its just a game"  like we always hear. 

    Meanwhile hackers and stackers are taking food out of babies mouths this holiday,  while they claim innocence,  the billions that could of been feeding industries in another reality,  all gone,  because of this suicidal empathy,  with monsters.

  • While I do think there are some wild alegations stated which would be impossible to prove, there is some anecdotal evidence, I think.

    I have noticed and wondered about the platform population. It does seem odd. There are so many times that I have started a match of breakthrough with crossplay on, and noticed that everyone playing is on an xbox like me. I have thought, what a weird coincidence and thought maybe crossplay is broken today. And then later, there are PC players in the match.

    It isn't proof of anything, but it is weird that the match adds PC players in later, not at the beginning. And it's not a one-time observation. And now I see that others have seen the same thing? It is strange.

  • Yup & I see it all the time. My team will have a 300-400 ticket lead on conquest for example. We own at least 4 out of 6 flags for the majority of the 30 minute round. Then suddenly when the match reaches 800 vs them 400 tickets. They grab 4 out of 6 flags for 5 minutes. Next thing you know the game score is 300-300. Suddenly we start losing tickets by the dozens every second. While their team loses less than a ticket every 5 seconds.  

    The game puts this dynamic in the game on purpose. It’s call EOMM ( Engagement Optimized Match Making)  When the winning team is winning the times are good. The moment the winning team loses the momentum even for a few minutes they start bleeding tickets at triple the rate of the losing team. The losing team that managed to gain the momentum in the last 5 minutes now starts bleeding tickets three times less.

    So at the conclusion of the game both teams are down to their last 50 tickets fighting over the last flag in the middle. Games feel intense this way & like hard fought victories for both teams. Even though in reality one team steamrolled the other for half and hour. The engagement or adrenaline from the close match was artificially created by the games algorithm to create a so called thrilling experience. Now the team that lost will say to themselves ah that was a close match I’ll try again next match, instead of sqrew this & quitting the game. 

  • This is definetly a statement, and i find it impossible to believe the devs are manipulating matches. How would they even do that?

    This stuff could happen in ANY BF title, hell it can happen in probably every shooter. Cause people can leave, and others can join. If you have a match where you're ahead, and a bunch of players on the other team leaves, those empty slots will be filled by either bad, good or sweaty players. That's been a fact for YEARS now.

    What do you think will happen if some players leave a match and those empty slots are taken by absolute units? There's now a higher chance that the game will turn. Maybe your team got complacent after that 300p lead, hell, maybe your team just wasn't that good to begin with.

    This is in the end, just a game. If you're not having fun, there's no shame in just quitting the game for a couple hours.

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