PC players forced into cross-play again
We all know that EA (and so, DICE too) care way more about marketing and money than actually giving customers what they want, but this cross-play stuff is more anti-consumer than even they will usual...
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Oh please... spare me your BS. 30 yrs ago... 30 yrs ago was 1995! Golden Eye wasn't even released until 1997! 30yrs ago study my a$$! Where do you pull these nice round numbers from? 40% of players have used cheats according to a poll... since when do people who play video games actually take polls (if you are going to mention polls, include it)!? The only polls I know gamers to give a rats a$$ about is Steam Hardware surveys. 80% sandbag... not in an age of auto assigning lobbies like for the last 10+ years! Back when we had private servers, yes, but not since lobbies were created. And worse than aimbotting?! Give me a effing break!? What are you smoking?! You stop 90% of the hacking!? Mother of God! You like pulling numbers out of thin air! Just say you don't know dude, just admit, there are problems that need addressed, you don't need to make up arbitrary numbers to make yourself seem intelligent or attempt to reinforce your argument. You sound like a guy who always jumps into a conversation with "Um, actually..."
Controllers used to be limited. Not any more including hardware wise. People have had enough time and practice to "get good" and shouldn't need any "help." When you give a decent player and additional software advantage, it makes it that much harder to beat them. IDGAF about pros, I care about the lobbies I play in and I am speaking on what I see and experience. My experience is not fun, not enjoyable, does not seem fair and the more I learn about the game, the more I find out it is stacked against me. There is a point when you just walk away because it isn't worth the time and effort. That is why I am posting my long dribble... to hopefully, knowing I will not, catch the attention of EA/DICE and they make changes to the game so I do not walk away. I have about as much chance in that as I do believing you won't make up some number in your next post.
Since you did peak my interest I did look it up, seeing as you were too lazy to do it and would rather wish numbers into being. Per Grok...
I asked "According to online gaming polls, how many players across all gaming platforms have admitted to using some kind of cheat in their games?"
| Poll/Survey | Date | Sample Size | Key Statistic | Details |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| YouGov & PLITCH (US gamers) | ~2022 | Not specified | 57% admitted to using cheats | Includes single-player (37%) and multiplayer cheats (e.g., codes for infinite ammo). Broadest definition of "cheats." Across platforms. |
| Irdeto Global Gaming Survey (multiplayer gamers in 6 countries: China, Germany, Japan, South Korea, UK, US) | 2018 | 5,911 gamers | 37% confessed to cheating (43% have used third-party tools) | Breakdown: 3% always, 9% often, 13% sometimes, 12% rarely. Focused on third-party tools (e.g., hacks) in online multiplayer games. 57% never used such tools. |
| Time2Play (US gamers) | 2023 | 1,019 | No total % admitted, but high acceptance | 77% said cheating is acceptable; many admitted specific methods (e.g., ~30% aimbots). PlayStation users admitted most. |
These polls show cheating is common, especially in single-player (less stigmatized) or with broad definitions. Multiplayer third-party cheating is lower (~37-43%). Recent 2025 reports like PlaySafe ID focus on encountering cheaters (80%), not self-admission, with 62% admitting temptation. No newer polls contradict these figures.
And you can't even trust these are accurate numbers. People lie and data collectors tend to manipulate data in their favor (depending on who pays for the polling efforts). I may as well have trusted CNN when they said Hilary was going to win the 2016 election... BWAHAHAA!!! Nope.
well in recent years I was following online chess. I thought they had the potential to change the direction of the world since they bridge the gap between the physical and digital realms since they are essentially the same game online and offline and they blew up right after covid. But they turned out to have the most cheaters of all communities. hahaha. In that community a famous Grand Master and former World Champion Vladimir Kramnik posted a poll, and you pretty much just concurred. Glad you weren't too lazy to find out what is obvious to most. But yet you still deny it is true? lol
I come from quake 1 online. I been gaming for a long time brother. I've known people in real life that have cheated ( i never once have and would defriend them ). Ands its a problem. back then at least you could keep players "too good" off your server" Now in these woke times if you did your server gets lagged out or booted offline. And the game companies think its immoral cause of woke ideology..lol In BF3 people were literally paying 50 dollars a month for hack subscriptions with tech support and everything. Alot of these direct x errors and crashes people get? are malicious brother. In the 90s it happened too but was considered science fiction. For example frying someones gigabyte bios was a thing in the 90s, and still a thing today. hacking someones cfg in quake so they were always drowning. To see people 30 years later still in denial, well....that probably why you say crazy things like controller players have an unfair advantage over mouse and keyboard users on pc's lmao....
I started online PC gaming in 2000 on Quake 2 and 3 then got introduced to Counter Strike and Day of Defeat. At some point I have played almost every COD, BF and older Medal Of Honor game out. I have seen a ton of different hacks used but like you, will not lower myself to use them. It is a poor and pathetic person who cheats online.
I too remember the private server days. I used to be a regular on a BF3 clan server that competed in a league. One day I go to play and the server is down. I check their forum, one of their members was caught by Punkbuster during a league match, they disbanded immediately. They used to kick people all the time for cheating and then for it to be one of their own, they felt betrayed. Sad but that is the reality we live in.
Online gaming is in a sad state. The companies are greedy slop producing turds, over promising and under delivering or going insanely woke. You can't trust anyone you play against, even on a console. Streamers are not that entertaining anymore, they are just chasing the views and subs and the drama... oh god the drama. Why do we, as older guys continue to play? Cuz we are addicted to it. We long for days past when gaming was good (hell they don't even release a finished product anymore). We want that rush of a good game, of accomplishment and satisfaction that comes from a well fought game and victory. Sadly, I think that is dead and gone, never to return...preach brother. I was in shock, that even the chess community, literally publicly sanctioned their streamers to smurf, and they call it "educational". One of their streamers recently suicided cause a famous World Champion started calling him a cheater. But this guy use to smurf on people and say because they are so low rated it is just casual fun. I mean the industry basically corrupted him, then he died of an overdose one night as he was acting depressed and out of his mind on stream. I kid you not. And the community started using his death as an excuse to censor all cheating talk. But they don't undserstand that what killed him, was convincing him that cheating for clicks and views was ok. His conscious got the best of him I think. It breaks my heart man because he was a sweet kid, pathological but good hearted, but I blame his manager and everyone around him for encouraging the path he went on. meanwhile its mostly kids that watch these streamers, and they are breeding sociopaths man. its a wholew giant community of cheaters and liars, its a whole generation now. They destroying our future. We have to get back to being real and not so fake. Where is the honor? They exploiting our children and they get no sympathy. We keep covering up the truth and society is imploding now, because its seeping into real life. They treating real life now, like we've always ignorantly treated the internet, like its some fantasy alternate reality, which is delusional and self destructive.
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