I keep seeing the reason for the Portal xp being removed is too many bot farming servers.
Why is it bad to farm bots for attachments, I don't understand.
People are getting unlocks faster? So. Why does anyone care.
People have higher K/D's on their profile? So. Why does anyone care? Stop bots from counting as kills, easy fix.
There is obviously a reason people are bot farming, and THAT seems to be the issue: Insanely long grind to unlock attachments for each weapon, which is how you build guns for competitive play.
Remove the need for bot farming, and you significantly reduce the server issue.
Just removing the bot farms will significantly reduce your player base.
The problem with bot farms is that they are not intended to play the game, people just join and stand at the bot spawn killing them. Same with AFK servers, join the server and go grocery shopping, level up while not even present at your device. Like in what world is this considered normal?! There is nothing wrong playing games against bots, as long as they play the game and not just stand there shooting them.
And the reason why anyone cares about getting the unlocks faster is, they get stronger guns, better attachements and this gives an unfair advantage. The k/d you talk about, well it looks many absolutely care about it or they wouldn't be exploiting bot farms and to then go boast around and pretend what they're not, what's even the point of stats anymore, what's even the point of playing the game if all this is being allowed.
The game is released 12 days ago and many are crying to get everything unlocked, this game isn't ment to be completed in two weeks, it's ment to enjoy and unlock for months and the more they play the faster the rewards they'll get. What will these bot farmers do when everything is unlocked in two weeks, week three they'll be bored and leave the game because there's nothing more to unlock or they'll join actual lobbies and get pawned having the highest rank and k/d looking like clowns, not that anyone cares but they sure do.
Many should remember that playing video games is about having fun, not about ego.
"The problem with bot farms is that they are not intended to play the game, people just join and stand at the bot spawn killing them. Same with AFK servers, join the server and go grocery shopping, level up while not even present at your device. There is nothing wrong playing games against bots, as long as they play the game and not just stand there shooting them."
You described what a bot farm is, but I'm not clear on why it's bad. How is it affecting your gameplay?
I played against bots to grind away at weapon attachments. It wasn't an afk server or anything, I still played, but I wouldn't need to play bots if there wasn't a massive grind unless I felt like a more chill night shooting. It does not impact anyone else's game except for stats - which I agree bot kills shouldn't count - and clogging up server quotas.
"And the reason why anyone cares about getting the unlocks faster is, they get stronger guns, better attachements and this gives an unfair advantage. The k/d you talk about, well it looks many absolutely care about it or they wouldn't be exploiting bot farms and to then go boast around and pretend what they're not, what's even the point of stats anymore, what's even the point of playing the game if all this is being allowed."
Yes, the advantage of people who play like it's a full time job absolutely gives them an advantage. Casuals need to bot farm to level the playing field so it is fair. If people are bot farming for k/d, they have bigger issues.
"What will these bot farmers do when everything is unlocked in two weeks, week three they'll be bored and leave the game because there's nothing more to unlock..."
I've never played Battlefield for unlocks. I play for fun. Initially it is cool to unlock new weapons and test them out, but now the testing is locked behind an insanely big attachment grind. Some people have the time for that, others don't.
"Many should remember that playing video games is about having fun, not about ego."
Agreed. I think that's why so many people are upset they can't legitimately play against bots and not progress like everyone else playing the game. Some people farm bots to get the gear to put them on equal footing in pvp, others devote every day to it. In the end if everyone has all their attachments unlocked, it then becomes skill vs skill.
You are missing my point and viewing this based on your gameplay, i absolutely don't say playing against bots is bad, i enjoy it to. There is a huge difference between playing against bots and bot farming as i mentioned, keep in mind, all weapon, attachements, challenges where available until today for all progression in bot lobbies, EA removed it because bot farms were exploiting it, here is how it affects, you, me and everyone because they just stood there in a bot farm at spawn point shooting bots to unlock everything.
- They now took away all progression from everyone who loved playing bots. Many people only want to play bots, many people only can play bots, so the result of these exploiters is that they all have a useless game and will never get any attachements unlocks and can't do the challenges to unlock the perks. - They have an unfair advantage running with fully equipped top tier weapons that normally and will take us months to unlock. - They unlocked all gadgets. Again unfair advantage being able to use all the stuff no one has yet.
Do you understand the huge impact this has on everyone who actually play the game? Bot farms are there only to exploit and the ones farming only care to get stronger weapons, the top tier attachements, less recoil because no one has it and that's the only way these losers can get a kill on the multiplayer map.
What they did is also made the class tiers completely irrelevant, in the past people looked up to top tier gamers, people grinded their butts of to become Elite, You did it all, you are a veteran, you are a true gamers..Now, it means absolutely nothing no more.
I don't blame the people who do it, they're probably kids and the ones older than 14 have a brain the size of a fruit fly. I blame EA for allowing this to happen, they have literally managed to ruin their own game in less than two weeks.
"I think that's why so many people are upset they can't legitimately play against bots and not progress like everyone else playing the game."
So understand that no one is upset with people playing against bots, nor progressing against bots. And they definitely need to bring back progression in bot games and deal with this bot farming issue in a propper way.
There seems to be a lot of people upset about people playing vs bots. They seem to only want people to earn unlocks the way they do, and don't want them to have better stats on their profile. I've never cared to look at anyones profile, even mine, but they seem to really care from all the threads I've been reading on this topic.
I don't think bot farming itself was their issue, only that 1 vs bot servers were clogging up their limited quota.
