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I have played every battlefield since BF2. And I have some serious concerns...
Regarding the new patch that's about to be released in Battlefield 6:
u/battlefield (Reddit)
We are developing adjustments that are intended to diminish the number of XP farms taking up server space while further emphasizing playing with friends on both custom and verified experiences.
For context: From what people have said after this announcement, including some moderators, Dice plans to remove XP gains from servers with a higher ratio of bots than players.
My friends and I have been very much enjoying the game in somewhat populated community servers, against both players and bots. We have no where near a great Kill/Death ratio, and the bots provide good competition for us; As in, we die a lot, even with the bots. The players in these games are mostly like us, fun to talk to, and nothing is ever serious. Occasionally someone shows up that's extremely skilled, but it's not very often. 'Pro' players seem to stick to 'pro' modes. Mostly it's casual players in our games.
I'm super concerned about Dice's decision to take action against players like us who according to them are "Farming XP". I assure you that we are not farming XP. We are not the one person off in the distance going 200-0 in empty servers where they am the only person there. We do not join empty servers. We find servers with 10-20 players, and join in. Sure, there's sometimes more bots than real players, but the server is far from "empty". Usually there are more players than bots as the server fills up.
Casual players need to "Get Good". Or we are not allowed to play for experience anymore.
The competitive servers in the game, the ones the game puts you in by default, some of us are completely outclassed by players with much higher skill levels than ourselves. We do not have any sort of fun against these people sometimes. By the time we even think about firing our weapons we are dead. I understand that it's a multiplayer game, but for some of us, we do not have fun in those games. To play in those games, we're forced to not play with a gun, and instead use tactics to farm experience with gadgets and spotting. In those games, we end up being that person farming EXP because some of us are not skilled enough to bring a gun into battle.
The thrill that we get "helping our team" with spots, assists, or revives gets old tho. Do you think it's fun the players that end up at the top of the scoreboard with almost no kills, and all assists? Sure it helps our teams win. But it's not what the game is about. Sometimes we like to play the game and be on the front lines too, ya know? And you're saying that are we not allowed to do that anymore.
So, that means that we cannot progress anymore because a few people took it upon themselves to excessively farm XP and ruin the game for everyone? Is that fair to murder our experience because they cannot be satisfied with 'good enough' and have to resort to unfair XP progression methods?
The only reason that many of us preordered this game, and paid the full $100 was because Dice promised us all that we'd be able to play the game our way, and gain weapons, gadgets, and progression any way that we wanted to. Now they are going back on their word and breaking that promise.
If they remove EXP gained from bot players, then it will affect everyone. We'll never be able to experience the battle in a meaningful way. We'll never have a goal to work toward. And we'll have no reason to play the game. Dice seem to be taking the side of the Karen's that will whine and complain about everything. Even after removing everything, these players will still be Karens, and they'll still find something to complain about. I personally love the game. I have issues with certain things, even enjoy the competitive servers. But that's due to my own skill with a gun in the game and that's enjoyable to me. But, Dice doesn't seem to care about what the casual players think anymore. And that's very concerning. They'll just keep bending over backwards for the people with the biggest mouths. It's a pretty bad business model when you start excluding players because of the Karen's in your audience.
Personally. I do not care that some players feel the need to brag about their 10:1 Kill Death ratios on reddit / facebook to intentionally bait people into arguments. Their insane KDR doesn't affect any of us. I don't complain about it. Everyone knows how they got it, it's not like it's some kind of big fat secret. They farmed bots to get it. We all know, and for the most part, your players do not care how they got it.
If you remove the XP for all because of a very small handful of the player population. That will affect myself and my friends. And I do not like this new direction that Dice is taking.
Suggestion:
If you want to limit the number of EXP farm servers, just remove servers from the list if they don't have any population for 24 hours. Take the experience down. Oh, and bring back server hosting. There are literally huge communities of players that would be more than happy to pay you directly to keep their server up 24/7. A lot of your negative feedback is actually coming from those players who cannot pay for their own server but would be more than willing to. And are instead forced to be in the public lobby, where they cannot even access their own 'experiences' because of all of the empty servers that are filling the list.
Your problem isn't the XP farm servers, your problem is too many empty servers.
Then dice need to stop braging about stopping cronus and CHEATERS and not do it. RAGE cheaters OK but those i dont cear about.Stop the ones that you cant see. I Know for a fact theres over 100.000 cheaters on bf form only one cheat provider! And if you have money you pay a companey to level up like mitchcactus ore what ever many like them. STOP that then its fear. Ore let us play whit the bots get XP we did that back in the time also.....Whats the problem? I played on a server for 6 hours last night i had fun feel like old bad company mix whit bf3 bf4 but this nerfing stupid. Let me us choose if we want to play whit bots ore not. I rather if i cud fill my own server whit non cheaters and play them! But i cant therefore i play whit bots!im a OG cocuestplayer soon 50years old i fuking fed up having to 60% of the the time have to carry the team to victory. It's not fun. When all the othere players think about is KD and XP.. I realy dont cear... But i want XP for my effords When im top player and the otheres get more XP cause they got 5 cap and 50kills! Thats what makes me not wanna play the game anymore. I can play like you. Then we never win and that facts if all play like you play to level up weapons and do missions for xp.... EGO trip out of hell. Ruins the game for all the otheres wanting to play. theres always 1 squad that does all the hard work! Let us play casual and you can capture your own spots! Play the game for real! Get wins. Cause thats what your crying about. Why dont dice stop cheaters! Cause they want the players i bet my head on it. But i dont want to play whit cheaters! If i can see the cheaters you can aslo EA DICE this is the problems not casual bot servers that you get regular XP form playing there. Yes the over prowerd xp lobbyes are stupid. But if you learn anything form Fortnite that had these server things for years, Theres always away to get XP now even AFK cause they stopped this othere stuff. Just let us do it i will rent servers ore pay for it