The weapon spread is fine and does not need removing.The longer you hold the trigger the more erratic the spread becomes, to counter this you need tap and burst fire which is something that we all learned to do, controlling your fire rate is a skill.I understand alot if players are not used to this mechanic or just don't like it but it is there to prevent everybody just using full auto all the time, it makes engagements more tactical.Full auto should only be used at close distances, thats a gameplay and design mechanic that is core to battlefields identity.There is a refusal to adapt to the games mechanics because they do not mirror other games, its OK for games to take different approaches and to do their own thing, everything doesn't need to be copy and paste.I could decide to play another fps and realise the gunplay doesn't mirror battlefields and complain but I won't because that is how that game works.Is it a learning curve if you are not used to it, yes it is but just because you have to learn a mechanic doesn't make it bad.If it was up to me we would have battlefield 3's suppression too that made your spread even worse when under fire.

I'm sorry you are just wrong. The bloom effect is almost immediate making head shots just a rng pokies game. A dot sight is saying I am aligned with the barrel and this is where the bullet will travel. It is for precision but if the bullet just does whatever it likes within a cone then it is a very misleading and unrewarding visual cue that is now just punishing good recoil control. OTH cone dispersion makes sense but ADS does not. Recoil pattens and scope bounce for movement and player control are some of the major factors that should affect accuracy but never ADS dispersion on a dot saying this is where the bullet will go and then breaking off. Also BFV and 2042 both had this same issue. BFV resolved it and had the best gunplay of all BF titles and also 2042 reduced bloom so you are both objectively and historically wrong

your take is terrible and we have many years worth of forums for battlefield to prove it. Bloom is way too overtuned. every single battlefield inwhich its been too strong we have complained to no end until they nerfed it. as i said in another post. Bloom is not the only thing that affacts your bullet trajectory. Suppression is still in the game and also affects your accuracy and stacks on top of bloom to make your bullets wildly inaccurate. rng bullets trajectory kind of defeats the purpose of aiming. everyone knows about tap firing thats not some new thing weve been using it in battlfield for ages. tap firing is for longer range engagments in close quarters fights that is not the place for tap firing thats full auto all day. That is where bloom is causing most of the frustration. it shouldnt even be active in close range battles withing 30-40 meters bloom should barely be in effect. past that point it should start and the further out from there it should get worse. these are modern weapons they arent in accurate old time weapons. they should feel modern and accurate within reason. right now that dont feel that accurate. Also want to point out that there are quite a few higher tier guns that are still lasers and are currently outclassing in all ranges. the more people that get access to them the mosre thats going to become apparent.

When bullets don't go where you are aiming, the game feels unresponsive. There are other ways to discourage full auto at range, making bullets go sideways out the barrel isn't a good one. I'd much rather they increase recoil across the board to encourage tapping instead. At least that way you'd have something visible and intuitive.

Its ok if they keep the bloom but when it kicks in after the 2nd shot, that is not even funny, I have tried burst firing and its still too much, its literally RNG, I am far more successful just spraying the **bleep** out of someone at medium range than burst firing at the enemy, with the short to medium range you are likely to loose a fight burst firing someone and thats a fact, for it to actually work you gotta get the jump on the guy and hope he isnt in cover by the 2nd burst, again if they want to keep bloom, that thing needs to be nerfed hard as in reduce the cone drastically by 75% or more when ADS. On top of that, I did a few test in the community servers and the weapon damage does not match what it says.

Yes but all the tracers are doing is showing you how bad the randomised bloom is, they can do nothing to help correct accuracy because if a tracer when left/up diagonal there is zero guarantee if I aim correct right/down diagonal I will hit target because rng might choose hard right for next dispersion. The ways to properly handle precision aim are:Vertical and horizontal recoil strength ( fixed or randomised patterns) e.g gun pulls up hard first half of mag pulling left and then vert evens out second half while pulling rightVertical and horizontal recoil bounce (the distance the dot moves between each bullet) First shot recoil (making it easier/harder to hit follow up shot) Recoil kick reset (does the recoil kick reset all the way to original position, half way, quarter way etc) Visual recoilRate of fireBullet velocity Bullet damage drop off Magazine sizeAll of these give a fair feel to the gunfight as the bullet still goes where the dot shows. For example, a gun may be quite low vert recoil so is quite easy to control climb but high hori recoil bounce, high first shot recoil kick, high rof, fast damage drop, slow velocity, short mag. As you can see this gun is suited well for short range but will struggle at distance and moving targets and will need regular reloads. All of this was achieved with NO RNG making it purely luck based. As a follow up just as players will gravitate towards lower recoil guns so will players with the BF6 the precision gauge (essentially guns with less bloom) and attachments that reduce bloom (increasing precision) . I already use it as my primary choice for a gun in BF6 because why choose a gun that is guaranteed to miss where I aim?? Where something like high recoil can be offset by say something like high bullet damage to influence choice, it can never do that with bloom because you are still guaranteed to RNG miss the target regardless.

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CHIEF_HOTSTICK
New Vanguard
14 hours ago
Ricky, you couldnt even be more wrong if you tried.
EA doesnt think its fine.
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/fps/its-not-just-you-hit-registration-is-bugged-in-battlefield-6-and-dice-is-working-on-it/
But keep defending RNG. Definitely a newb who doesnt know how to balance a game.
CHIEF_HOTSTICK
New Vanguard
14 hours ago
Just because its always been a part of battlefield doesnt mean anything.
Most players hate ADS bullet spread
It was a work around technique that is ancient. From the dial up 56k days.
RNG gun fights have no place in a high tense game like battlefield
R1ckyDaMan19
Seasoned Ace
13 hours ago
Its only rng if you don't control your fire rate.
sammcool666
Seasoned Traveler
13 hours ago
bullet bloom is there to punish all players. dice and ea have created bloom so it can DICTATE who wins firefights. its now a real time sbmm mechanic 100%. good players will feel frustration and bad aiming players will NEVER feel like their aim is progressing. it will ruin the game. fortnite had it...they minimalized it because people hated it. bf2042 had it and it died. bf1 and bf4 had it and it was terribleee. i think they are catering for people with bad aim that dont like being beaten by people with better aim in gunfights. bloom makes everyone as bad as the worst person. its communism of gaming.
R1ckyDaMan19
Seasoned Ace
13 hours ago
Like I said, I agree that it is bugged in its current state and isn't behaving the way it should and dice are going to adjust it.
Vormax66
Seasoned Novice
11 hours ago
Yes its RNG. We Dice could make it like Counter strike and have recoil pattern for all guns that you can learn. It will remove the RNG but is that what battlefield is about? I am not arguing that he game can have more horizontal drift or vertical recoil when firing, that is legit. What i argue is that if you are going to have the dot follow all the bullet impacts and have the same recoil pattern as right now you are not going to spray at all.

Ex: With an LMG you can spray a lot. If you aim at someone mid spray you are missing a lot of bullets cause of bloom. If your crosshairs would follow every every round you would not be able to see anything at all in your sights. You would become dizzy after a few sprays.

Squad has opted for more visual gun recoil (not sure if they have bloom or not) and in that game any form of spray is useless cause you have now clue what you are aiming at cause of the recoil.

Its either that or reduce the recoil in general and make it follow but i am afraid weapon balancing will be ruined. Alternatively you could have spray patterns like CS2. But then again not even CS2 follows it spray with the crosshair.
I do agree that there is an issue with everyone stacking precision on their guns, completely agree. M4a1 was busted during the beta and i still see it used frequently. M433 is also in the same boat. Mostly cause attachments mostly have low downsides to them.
Lionsgate97
Newcomer
10 hours ago
Not a removal but a reduction like they did in bf 4 what we have now is reminiscent to what bf 4 was at launch and everyone agreed then that it was way too much bloom
yungluke222
New Rookie
10 hours ago
The m4a1 was not busted in the beta. It was one of a extremely small pool of weapons it was common and a lot of people were using it. your perception is extremely skewed so was everyone elses. the sxg smg was much stronger but it wasnt popular so you didnt see it as much to know that it was. the m433 was much stronger than the m4a1 and still is with attachments but again people werent using it. You watch too much stream clips if you really played and tested the weapons yourself youd know it wasnt broken it was just a good gun. the M4a1 is an icnoic weapon and is popular just by name alone if its available people will use it just because they like the gun itself. now we have the whole roster of weapons and there are some guns that are downright monsters compared to the claims of the m4a1 from beta or otherwise.

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