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5 years ago

A Very Common Issue with Multiplayer Games These Days.

Now, this is not a problem that happens only in Battlefield but also in other fps franchises.. and it's that matches, let's face it, are way too unbalanced if you ask me in terms of rookies vs veterans, needless to say what's the outcome of that situation: pubstompers, chat rants, hatred in general and off course.. way too much frustration from a product that's supposed to make you feel joy and have you entertained.

I've felt several times after a match that.. I ain't wanna play this game anymore, and trust me.. only Battlefield gives me that awful sensation.. and offcourse, the fanboys and the veterans will come to shut me up by telling me to "git gud", play more and all of that crap.. but here's the thing, guys.. Not everybody wants to become a pro player.. and according to ya, unless we become pro we won't have any fun? No way! There are also the hypocrites who would ask me: "dude, if you ain't take this game seriously, what d'ya care if you lose?" and I wanna ask this to some of these mind-deaf beings: whether if you take something serious or not.. do you find any fun in losing on it over and over and over again? Only a crazy person wouldnt feel any frustration from that.. Every person has the need of some sense of achievement.. and I know this is a competitive game, but hey.. as far as I know.. in sports there are different leagues according to team levels.. you wouldnt arrange a match of a local college baseball team against the yankees, would ya?

My point, there should be some sort of ranked level matches.. where every match would be only with users on similar levels.. similar statistics and then matches would be way more balanced, where everybody has the same amount of chances of killing enemies, etc.. I know veterans would give me the same crap that "No, you have to play against better people so u can get better", but here's the thing.. I don't, I don't wanna get better.. this is a videogame, not a combat simulator in a recruitment office, I just wanna have fun after a long day at work, and guess what? Since I paid for that game too.. my opinion counts.. whether you like it or not..

People talk trash about SBMM but hey.. for me at least, matches are way more fun when a system like that controls wich users are in the game.. like all the matches I've had in Titanfall 2, and that's a game I've played way less than Battlefield.. the thing with veterans against SBMM is just a vulgar display of hipocrisy cuz.. they say we the rookies have to play against better players to improve.. but when they have to play against people as good as they are... suddenly matches are unfair.. they nag us cuz we want easy chilled matches, but they actually want the same.. the argument of most of the anti SBMM users is: "nah, man.. cuz it's not cool that you have to sweat every match, bla bla bla".. and hey, tryhards.. that's exactly what we the rookies have to go through everytime you come to our matches to ruin the fun.. you give us the "git gud"? I give you the "get bettah".

P.S.: And for the smartasses who'll try to shut me up with the easy "if you don't like it, don't play it" crap.. No, I like this game.. what I hate is its bully community who loves to take advantage on the new players, people that can brag all day long how awesome they are etc.. but the thing with these pitiful beings is that.. mastering this game is probably the only good thing of their lives.. and I take no orders from people that I don't know, who don't pay my bills and specially people who have no respect for the community.. You're great at the game? Congratulations.. but u don't have to be arrogant and annoying in order to show ur supremacy.. stay humble, and stay away from our matches.

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25 Replies

0ld_yell0w
5 years ago
It could be solved with several login methods; finding servers with skillbased search, the normal "I close my eyes and push the button" and the old style "I play on my favorite servers because my friends are there and I honestly dont give a darn about loosing as long as I have fun" 🙂
Forcing players to join servers through a skill based setting alone wont work - diversity is the way to go to get BF up and running again.
Teal_Pipo_Fredo
5 years ago
@0ld_yell0w
From day 1 (ideally):
Official DICE's playlist & server browser servers
Ranked division league SBMM servers
Community server browser servers
I feel all experiences would get support from community.
maskedocelot
5 years ago
The problem with the battlefield V shuffle was it kicked people from servers to fresh ones so you had to wait for it to fill which sounded frustrating and disjointed.
I liked the battlefield 1 team shuffle that was something like first squad against second and then randomise the rest. People play with personality and have a routine so they tend to play the same way every time so shuffling is definitely needed to not get bored and first squad against second from any round is normally enough to put the game in a position where you can play without being insta killed or perma spawn trapped.
I don't expect micromanagement of the game to make it as balanced as possible like changing of teams post round start or using overall stats, just the one's from the previous round. I also don't like people team switching, it leads to a game of chicken where people are trying to second guess the person or squad dictating who wins and switch to that side and then no1's playing coz they're too busy team switching. Also having the game in a position where a squad can dictate gameplay shows bad balance in the first place.
I am expecting teams to fill up fairly evenly though and have max players per side for the most part, BFV was very bad at that.
Also in breakthrough it's best to go defend then attack then shuffle teams, and in grand ops it's best to do the 3 days then shuffle rather than after each round.
@wildbam wrote:
hmm there was a "try" in December '20.. we had a team shuffle after each round.. the result was nice - we had much more intense games.. the only negative points were.. we attacked or defended multiple maps in a row.
And if we ran with more then one squad it was a lil bit annoying 'cause one squad had to rejoin on map change 'cause they often ended up on a different server..
Sadly too many people complained and the team shuffle was turned off.. I'd like to link the forum thread.. but it's on the old/offline forum..
bigiain
5 years ago
Too many of of the middling players know just enough to kill the balance these days unfortunately. BF1 was plagued with opportunistic team switching caused by Operations that had a false reputation for being impossible on one side or the other. That soon became a self fulfilling prophecy. BFV had chunks of teams quickly quitting at the sight of clan tags on the opposition team, not without reason either. Air power killing everyone on the flag seems like much more of a thing in BF1 and BFV than it was before then as well, but that could be my memory playing tricks.
People playing the series for a long time and making the effort to watch the youtubers for tips versus a lot of casual players who often seem to be playing another game entirely makes for a very hard game to balance.
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
5 years ago
@bigiainBut being casual does not excuse their disinterest in trying to assist the team.
Just doing basic things like healing, reviving, giving ammo, repairing, spotting and reacting and using counters on threats like vehicles, make a huge difference even if one is mediocre to bad at gunfights