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Anonymous
12 years ago
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Constantly kicked because of punkbuster GAME HACK #89265 I do NOT hack...

I do not, nor have I ever hacked. I whole load of people are having issues with this, the BF4 forum is littered with complaint threads and even the official punkbuster master bans list is chock full ...
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    Anonymous
    12 years ago

    http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php?page=support-bf4.php

    "Friday 11.08.2013 [02:00PM]

    We have confirmed that Violation #89265 may be triggered by non-cheat software. This Violation code has been removed from our master servers and we encourage server admins to give the benefit of the doubt to players who raised this code over the past few days."

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Hawk1138
12 years ago

I don't know of anyone that's heard back from them yet. Punkbuster is also one of those groups that goes with the security by obscurity method, wherein they refuse to publish any real information about how/why they ban for many offenses. People that know nothing about security tend to believe that this is an effective method, but fail to realize that transparency is required to have really effective security. Unfortunately, the result is that there's no good way to find out what may be causing false positives as a result of the fact that they won't release any information about how or what is being detected as a "hack".

Until someone has gotten a response from evenbalance we're all pretty screwed, and I'm not holding my breath on how they respond either.

Otherwise, I'd just continue to ignore the trolls that are infesting these threads acting as though they know everything, and maybe hope that they get hit with this same thing (or worse).

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Anonymous
12 years ago
@Hawk1138 wrote:

I don't know of anyone that's heard back from them yet. Punkbuster is also one of those groups that goes with the security by obscurity method, wherein they refuse to publish any real information about how/why they ban for many offenses. People that know nothing about security tend to believe that this is an effective method, but fail to realize that transparency is required to have really effective security. Unfortunately, the result is that there's no good way to find out what may be causing false positives as a result of the fact that they won't release any information about how or what is being detected as a "hack".

Until someone has gotten a response from evenbalance we're all pretty screwed, and I'm not holding my breath on how they respond either.

Otherwise, I'd just continue to ignore the trolls that are infesting these threads acting as though they know everything, and maybe hope that they get hit with this same thing (or worse).

Nice post. False positive is so frustrating, you don't even know what are you banned for. Just like is it Visual Studio, VMware or mouse autoclicker (never used for BF).

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    Anonymous
    12 years ago

    I'm kind of glad this forum is more mature than that show that's going on over there on battlelog. i'm also having this issue, opened a ticket with evenbalance, but have not received any news of what's being done about it. i really hope there can be some sort of investigation started on either or both EA and Evenbalance's part... 

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    Anonymous
    12 years ago

    There are instances of them admiting that non-cheat software have triggered detections on BF3: http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php?page=support-bf3.php

    "

    Wednesday 07.10.2013 [3:00PM]

    We have confirmed that a misconfiguration on our backend caused a few cases of Violation #132056 inadvertently. We encourage server admins to give the benefit of the doubt to players who raised this violation code today."

    "

    Wednesday 01.30.2013 [6:00PM]

    We have confirmed that Violation #89271 may be triggered by non-cheat software. This Violation code has been removed from our master servers and we encourage server admins to give the benefit of the doubt to players who raised this code over the past few days."

    "

    Thursday 12.20.2012 [11:15AM]

    We have confirmed that Violation #89800 may be triggered by non-cheat software. This Violation code has been removed from our master servers and we encourage server admins to give the benefit of the doubt to players who raised this code over the past few days."

    Looks like this is the first one for BF4. I hope they clear all this up very soon. This is really depressing.

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    Hawk1138
    12 years ago
    @Morthawt wrote:

    There are instances of them admiting that non-cheat software have triggered detections on BF3: http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php?page=support-bf3.php

    "

    Wednesday 07.10.2013 [3:00PM]

    We have confirmed that a misconfiguration on our backend caused a few cases of Violation #132056 inadvertently. We encourage server admins to give the benefit of the doubt to players who raised this violation code today."

    "

    Wednesday 01.30.2013 [6:00PM]

    We have confirmed that Violation #89271 may be triggered by non-cheat software. This Violation code has been removed from our master servers and we encourage server admins to give the benefit of the doubt to players who raised this code over the past few days."

    "

    Thursday 12.20.2012 [11:15AM]

    We have confirmed that Violation #89800 may be triggered by non-cheat software. This Violation code has been removed from our master servers and we encourage server admins to give the benefit of the doubt to players who raised this code over the past few days."

    Looks like this is the first one for BF4. I hope they clear all this up very soon. This is really depressing.

    It's even more depressing because they won't even open up to say what was causing the false positives in those instances. It's a shame, as I'd rather been enjoying BF4 so far (even with the instability issues).

    It's also irritating because, while there are many people that claim otherwise, in the long time that I ran my old 2142 server some years ago, PB was never actually good for anything except kicking people with high ping. I'd actually rather that was it's purpose, as a few dedicated admins are worth more than any cheat detection system ever could be.

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    Anonymous
    12 years ago

    I know what you mean. I hope they can fix it else my recreation will go to almost nothing. I get on with friends and we game. It is what we do. If punkbuster does not fix this, the games we play will be unavailable to me. Makes me really angry to think that could happen if they don't figure this out.

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    Hawk1138
    12 years ago

    Yeah, I'm in a very similar boat. I hope it doesn't come to that, but we'll just have to wait and see - especially since it sounds like not a single person that's been talking about this has had any response at all from EvenBalance yet.

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