Re: No matter how good the next BF looks, you need to really nail anti-cheat

I'm switching from PC to PS5 and disabling crossplay. I have zero faith in PC anti-cheat, especially EA's.

I played BF1 this Friday and reported around 20 cheaters. Some of them I reported months ago.

But I keep filing reports...

So even with a hired cheater they were not able to detect a reported cheater with 144/0 KD using MG?

@Rev0verDriveI don't think EA will do better than other AC-products, but any improvements to FF is welcome.

Unless MS does something within the OS itself (running games in VMs etc), it will probably be very hard to remove cheating.

One big problem is that everybody "hates" MS, and if they did something drastic, then it will give a lot of problems with all kinds of applications (Afterburner etc etc).

Antivirus-like solutions are the only way at the moment and this will always be a race of detecting the latest cheat-software. But perhaps normal anti-virus-products (Defender, BitDefender etc) should begin detecting cheat-software, at least they have a lot of experience in detecting (unwanted) software.

Well this is interesting. Emails in the Epic Games v. Apple case reveal that Sony requires game developers to have an option to turn off cross-play on PlayStation.

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TheVerge.com wrote:

Sony also stipulates in the policy that publishers can’t transfer virtual currency to or from PlayStation, and that there must be a setting to disable all cross-platform interactions.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/3/22417560/sony-ps4-cross-play-confidential-documents-epic-games-agreements

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Guess this explains why PlayStation games have the option to disable cross-play, but Xbox games don't. Definitely getting BF6 on PS5 now.

@Rev0verDriveThe problem is that people are willing to let cheat-software run at any possible privilege.

Unless MS can make the games memory and network-communication private to the game (hidden from the OS), cheat software will always be possible. This is not an easy task as making memory unreadable for other processes, brings a lot of possibilities for running really bad spyware/virus-products as well.

Whitelisting programs could be an option, but this would involve having MS to whitelist games/programs (there are a lot of legitimate software on windows, programs, drivers etc etc) and OS-whitelisting could probably get 'hacked' as well (cheaters will do anything possible).

The real solutions in using some kind of VM-technology, but this again brings a lot of issues (performance being one of them).

Indeed @OskooI_007 ,

Sony has no interest in sharing their player population with their direct competitor MSFT, if they can avoid it and loose their current absolute control!

All while MSFT wants to gamble on both horses, as they win no matter if their players are on Xbox or on a Windows PC.

Now lets see how the next battlefield game will implement that function, as if all Windows MnK-jockeys (incl the wall hackers, punkbuster escapists, etc etc) they are blasting all console players out of the way in the game, then guess where the next generation of BF gamers wants to be?

The whole point of the consoles was exactly to serve as a level playing field, where it was not the player who could afford the most overpowered PC and sinister hacks that would necessarily win the match...

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@VOLBANKER_PC wrote:
@CyberDymeIf BF6 comes with forced crossplay for PC and Xbox, I’m switching from my Xbox Series X to PS5, whenever supply is available again.

I specifically quit PC gaming and switched to console to avoid playing with “super players” :/

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Do it anyway....... 😜 

@VOLBANKER_PCthere was cheatin way on console, it's no any different at all, what platform u are playin. for console, u don't think some can hit over 50, but most can't , it's not a player who are using controller cheat device?come on, in statistics, this is called so rare, like than 5% chance. but u can see them every server,every day, every hr... dont' want to say much, if u can't detect it, it is wasting the time to tell u how to detect them in cheatin.

swtiching to PS5,wouldn't change anything. i hear even game on mobile phone can have cheatin