We need better hardware optimization for the next BF game for PC

CPU optimisation would be swell. Easily the most CPU intensive games I've played and I'm skeptical that it really needs to be or if it's due to the notoriously patchwork nature of the Frostbite engine.

I fully understand your concerns.

But Intel milked the market for many years, releasing rehashed versions of their CPUs.

Performance of CPUs had come to a point, where clockspeed couldn't be increased much more, and only more cores could give more performance. AMD released Ryzen, with more cores at better prices than Intel had and that raised the bar. 4 core CPUs are quickly becoming obsolete now, the new consoles has a lot of CPU-power, compared to 4 core I5s, and this will probably begin to show in upcoming games from now on.

Whether BF-games can be better optimized is hard to tell. No other games has destruction on the level of BF, so it's hard to compare with anything else.

People having newer CPUs (more cores), can argue that games ought to use them...

For sure.

My main gripe on BFV performance wise,  Is the implementation of DXR.

As it stands,  BFV still only uses v1.0 of DLSS,  where now we have DirectX 12.1 which has DLSS 2.0 support which is far more optimised.

I was kinda hoping DLSS 2.0 would get patched in before development stopped so I could play at 4k with everything cranked at a silky smooth 60+ fps.

The next game definitely needs DirectX12 Ultimate support with DLSS 2.0.

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@cso7777 wrote:

I fully understand your concerns.

But Intel milked the market for many years, releasing rehashed versions of their CPUs.

Performance of CPUs had come to a point, where clockspeed couldn't be increased much more, and only more cores could give more performance. AMD released Ryzen, with more cores at better prices than Intel had and that raised the bar. 4 core CPUs are quickly becoming obsolete now, the new consoles has a lot of CPU-power, compared to 4 core I5s, and this will probably begin to show in upcoming games from now on.

Whether BF-games can be better optimized is hard to tell. No other games has destruction on the level of BF, so it's hard to compare with anything else.

People having newer CPUs (more cores), can argue that games ought to use them...

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Yes, I absolutely welcome the Ryzen revolution into our lives.

I am just wondering if the current hardware availability issue will make it really hard to have a BF6-ready machine for those who like me have an older system (I build this PC for BF4 with only the graphics card being upgraded to 1050ti

I understand your concerns and the current GPU-situation are a disgrace.

CPUs and other components are possible to get by (only some models are hard to find) and hopefully things will improve in the next quarters for GPUs.

But having a machine build for BF4, still running today, is actually not bad. You got value for your money...

Indeed, I picked every piece my myself and had the retailer assemble it and send it to me.

The initial machine cost around 800-900 euros (could had taken a cheaper motherboard and less watts on the power supply in hindsight). Later I doubled the memory, added a second SSD exclusively for BF and WoWarcraft, more memory (from 8GB to 16) and I replaced the Graphics card with a 1050ti after the previous one started to misbehave if I remember.

As long as one does not try to have the graphics at high settings from the purchase to retirment, the machine lasts long enough

Same question.
I want to do a low-cost upgrade. And I am between the R5 3500 and R5 3600. The main difference is that the 3500 is 6C / 6T and the 3600 is 6C / 12T (Here the price difference is approximately 40%, and that makes a difference to my budget).
But I am in doubt about the importance of more threads for the next BF.

I think hyperthreading usually gives around a 25 to 30% boost in performance. I notice more stuttering when I turn off hyperthreading with my Intel i7 8700k.

@OskooI_007BF5 was one of the first games to really take advantage of all those cores and threads.

@DvD-stX having more than 6 threads is a big deal in BF5 and future titles because the new consoles have 8 cores and 16 threads each.

Personally I am pretty certain I will go for a R7 5800x for my next PC even at the cost of a cheaper initial graphics card because I want a CPU that will last me at least an entire console generation with no freaking CPU bottlenecks

Hi @UP_Hawxxeye,

I had seen some reviews of BF1, and they said that disabling HT improves performance. So I stayed between the R5 3500 and the 3600.
I will start with one of these processors but I intend to buy a 5800X or 5900X next year, for that I am investing in a good motherboard.
As you said about the BF5 already making better use of HT and this should continue for future titles, I will start with the R5 3600.
Thanks.