We need better hardware optimization for the next BF game for PC

If you plan on playing BF6, I would simply wait until you can get a 8c/16t CPU. Minimum specs for BF6 will perhaps be less (than 8c/16t), but BFV and BF1 ran badly on minimum specs and the same will probably happen with BF6.

Unless you desperately need to upgrade now, buying a 3500 would seem like waste of money, instead of waiting until you have the money for a better CPU. If you already have the MB for the 3500, then you can probably use the same MB for a 5800x as well.

The way Ryzen works, the MB is less important. Unless you just have to tweak to get perhaps 5% of CPU-performance, a "good" MB often makes no real difference (and overclocking Ryzen often comes at the cost of lowering max single-core boost clock anyway).

Next year AMD (and Intel) will probably use DDR5 for their CPUs and then all money invested in MB/RAM will become obosolete, which is worth considering.

Öhmmmmm, have you guys been ever to the old BF5 forum where people non stop complaint about low FPS with even the neweset CPU/GPU setup? If so, why are people defending here the top bottom optimization? I know that some of you guys are very proud of your setup swelling your E-PEN but you only belong to a small minority... you give EA/DICE a free pass for bad optimization for the next BF title by saying... oh boy 64 core CPUs is a must have nowadays its the bottom of acceptable amount of raw calculation power...

BFV was designed for 6 cores according to Dices own developers (even though min specs said otherwise).

BFV ran pretty well on modern systems, most people having problems running BFV has other issues.

Thinking that the next game will use less resources than BFV seems unlikely. BF-games are more complex than most other games (destruction etc) and it is hard to compare BF-games with anything else. Saying BF-games are badly optimized is only guess-work, we have no real knowledge of how good/bad the game is coded. We know that Frostbite is very complex to work with for developers, but again this tells us nothing about optimization.

That a game runs badly on a 5 year old PC says nothing about how well optimized the game is. Only that the 5 year old CPU is too slow for the game.

"We know that Frostbite is very complex to work with for developers, but again this tells us nothing about optimization."

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Q: DICE can we have bonus XP weekends in BF5?

A: The technology isnt there

Q: DICE can we have all game modes at once

A: The technology isnt there to add more than X points in the game menu

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DICE developers seemingly cant even control their own engine... and you tell me that based on this inability the game is "likely" well optimized? I have my doubts... i cant even switch to DX12 because the game wont start than...

I just say that we don't know how well optimized the game is. Limitations of their game engine has nothing to do with optimization and CPU/GPU-usage (but we can agree on it being ridiculous).

And you not being able to run DX12, doesn't have to be the game that has issues. This again has nothing to do with optimization...

Battlefront2 is running with the frostbite engine too and they had bonus XP weekends... so iam not sure if the engine is the limiting factor here... oh and lets not forget the epic bugs after a lot of "updates"... sorry i can only repeat myself, it looks like the "developers" dont know how to handle the frostbite engine or there is something fundamental broken with it... both possibilities are sad and i only wanted to say: Look at all those "stand alone facts" and tell me that despite all these things one can say: "They made a ton of mistakes, but the optimization was done 100% great, they * on a ton of things but that one thing was top priority for them"

Frostbite has a lot of issues and are apparently extremely complex to work with. One gamechanger (JF) asked Dice about double xp, why specific assignments has to be choosen in BFV etc etc, and these things was down to limitations in Frostbite.

Another issue is that Dice almost never make any meaningful changes to maps, seems like it is way too time-consuming to do.

The assignment-system in BF4, could track hundreds of assignments, in BF1 something changed and Dice started getting issues with things like assignments and BFV became totally stupid in this regard. I personally gave up on assignments, because you had to choose specific ones and then play accordingly. This had a negative impact on BFV overall, people wasted time doing stupid assignments (they had choosen), instead of playing for the team.

Also, why are there no medals/ribbons in BFV?

Hopefully Dice will improve Frostbite for the next title, the current state of Frostbite is a disgrace to Dice.