Which is better, BFV or BF4 vehicle spawning?
Which do you prefer? BFV style where you spawn into vehicles from the respawn screen after you're dead, or BF4 style where vehicles spawn at bases and anyone can jump into them while you're still ali...
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@DingoKillr >> "@Turbo_Nozomix you still fail to explain what the immersion difference between a vehicle pop into hanger without a driver or with a driver."
I've actually explained the difference in immersion in my posts. I guess you didn't read them very thoroughly - something that's obvious from the rest of your comment.
>> "Where are the vehicle hangers on these BF4 maps - Zavod, Rogue Transmission, Oeration Outbreak or Dawn Breaker just example of a few."
Likewise, already addressed. Read my comments.
>> "I advocating for less trolling and where the challenge should be, but you keep making up lies about me. It seem to me you want trolling. "
No-one's said they want there to be more trolling. So, you're literally lying in claiming that either I have, or that I've claimed that you do. You keep saying the most stupid of things. And after having incorrectly used the word "projecting" as many times as you have, it's ironic that you're projecting.
>> "BF2 a PC based game only in a market with very little competition or player base. BF1 the game you called shallow did far better in player numbers in a much harder market but go on make new history."
What I've said is that "Bf1 gathered the largest release sales in Battlefield history. But then it had the worst player-retention in Battlefield history and the number of players dropped like a rock after its launch and as soon as people played it and realized... 'this isn't the Battlefield I wanted, and this isn't very good'. "
Bf2 was, I think, the top-selling PC game the year it released. As a % of the market it released in, I think it was the most popular Battlefield game to-date. Not a small feat to accomplish at a time when the Battlefield name wasn't as well known. When Bf2 Revive was still around, there were more people still playing Bf2 than Bf3. I think there still are more people playing Bf2 through Bf2 Hub than there are playing Bf3.
By contrast, Bf1, despite having large launch sales, is the worst-performing game, as far as retaining its players goes, in Battlefield's history.
>> "Yep 3d spotting in BF2 confirmed."
Thanks for confirming once more that you haven't ever played Battlefield 2 (which has no 3D spotting), and that you don't even know what 3D spotting is. However, I think you'd already demonstrated that quite enough.
https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Spotting
"The spotting mechanic used in more recent Battlefield games, where spotted enemies are highlighted on the HUD and the minimap (also known as "3D Spotting"), is first introduced in Battlefield 2142."
"Battlefield 2142 introduces "3D Spotting", a more refined version of the spotting mechanic in previous games. Still activated with the Commo Rose, 3D spotting creates a small red diamond appears over the body of an enemy on the player's HUD, as well as a minimap marker, for a short time."
>> "BF2 forced teamwork it did not encourage teamwork. When it did not work players fun suffered. So there is to much explosive spam in BF since BF2. Lol that is brilliant. Long pauses in play you want are only need because of the heavy attrition in BF2."
You talking about a game you've never played (which continues to be evident in the comments you make about it) is pretty pointless, and just shows that you are someone who lies and makes things up to try to push their argument (which is clearly based in inexperience).
>> "Ohh BF2 is complex no it is not. You focus on this false immersion BF2 provides and claim any who object is wrong."
You talking about a game you've never played (which continues to be evident in the comments you make about it) is pretty pointless, and just shows that you are someone who lies and makes things up to try to push their argument (which is clearly based in inexperience).
It's funny that you talk about Bf2 a lot more than I do, despite obviously knowing nothing about it. I mostly talk about it to correct your ridiculous comments about it. And you just made another one here. Bf2 is easily the most complex Battlefield game to-date.
@Turbo_Nozomix Wow, still can't explain the difference.
As I said early in this thread BF4 vehicle spawn had more trolling than BFV vehicle spawn.
Wrong again , this is what you said.
"Bf4 maps actually do have those details. I guess you didn't play it. I kind-of figured that."
So I gave a short list of maps that don't.
Did you see the picture from BF2, I guess not. and you don't read either.
"Battlefield 2142 introduces "3D Spotting", a more refined version of the spotting mechanic in previous games.
Really how could it be introduced if it was in previous games.
Guess you wrong about player counts too
BF1 https://steamcharts.com/app/1238840
BF4 https://steamcharts.com/app/1238860
But do go on about how I have never played BF, I do love it when people make up stuff about me it is such a thrill.
>> "Wow, still can't explain the difference."
Wow. You're still playing dumb (or, maybe you're not playing) and refusing to read my responses so that you can play (or not play) dumb to them.
>> "Wrong again , this is what you said.
"Bf4 maps actually do have those details. I guess you didn't play it. I kind-of figured that."
So I gave a short list of maps that don't."
Why are you demonstrating to me once again that you haven't read my responses? Don't you realize that only makes you look worse and either incompetent or wilfully dishonest (AKA a liar)?
I also said, among a lot of other things you haven't acknowledged:
"there is given visual explanation for the presence of a vehicle on a map. There doesn't need to be a specific kind of station for that to happen."
>> "Did you see the picture from BF2, I guess not. and you don't read either.
"Battlefield 2142 introduces "3D Spotting", a more refined version of the spotting mechanic in previous games.
Really how could it be introduced if it was in previous games."
Do you know how to be anything other than self-embarrassing? If so, you should show it.
You obviously can't even read the text that you just quoted in red. And do you know when Battlefield 2142 released? Do you know when Battlefield 2 released? Obviously, you don't.
You don't even know what the screenshot you posted shows. Hint: It doesn't show 3D spotting. You're absolutely clueless.
>> "Guess you wrong about player counts too
BF1 https://steamcharts.com/app/1238840
BF4 https://steamcharts.com/app/1238860"
Why are you presenting Steam stats for games which appeared on Steam only recently, almost all the sales of which (and especially for Bf4) are on consoles and Origin? Is it because you're a dishonest and desperately-reaching person? Yes, that would be the reason why.
Here's a reminder for you: Since March 2019, Battlefield 4 has had a larger player-base than Battlefield 1. And Battlefield 1 has the worst player-retention in Battlefield's history.
This is the entire player-base for the games across all platforms - not on just one isolated platform, as you've dishonestly presented in an attempt to deceive people and push your nonsense.
>> "But do go on about how I have never played BF, I do love it when people make up stuff about me it is such a thrill."
It's completely easy to debunk the things you say because the things you say have no basis in reality but are fictional claims you made-up. That you love being humiliated and proven to be a liar time after time means that you're a masochist. But at least you enjoy it.
