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6 years ago
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Runway design

Nobody at DICE foresaw a potential problem with runway design and aircraft spawn locations.

This is the type thing I’d expect to see in a Beta/test server. Not on live servers in a AAA title. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/fuf9wh/dice_im_at_a_loss_of_words_here_who_designed_this/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Also please re-examine flight physics, superior Altitude = superior Energy = speed advantage. The artificial top speeds when diving are arcade like. There is no way an enemy aircraft approaches me from below, from a vastly lower alt then gains on me when I have superior E and I dive away AFTER he does a 180 degree turn! With current airframes in game this is physically impossible but happens every match. 

  • @Psychopski Definitely feel that it should detect if a plane is already using the runway and wait for the other plane to spawn.

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  • @Psychopski Definitely feel that it should detect if a plane is already using the runway and wait for the other plane to spawn.
  • Like one of the comments said, people wanted runways and this is one of the problems that should be expected.

    Plane hit a crater and turned slightly; with no real correction this was bound to happen imo. Other plane should have moved too

  • @TTZ_Dipsy 

    The “other plane” from the adjacent runway spawned right in the middle of the runway I spawned on. This is a design flaw. 
     
    “Bound to happen” because I hit a bomb crater? “To be expected”?  Do you have even a basic understanding of how taxi ways and runways actually work? Are you being serious or are trolling me and just  to get a response? 

    If you’re not trolling Im wondering what planet you hail from. This has absolutely nothing to do with user input, user error, etc. This was absolutely NOT “bound to happen” because of anything I or the other pilot did. This was absolutely bound to happen because of an extremely flawed placement of a spawn point. 

    As a Training Safety Officer, Range Safety Officer, Parachute Drop Zone Safety Officer, with dozens of other life or death combat medical responsibilities, and last but not least as a combatant in the US military most of my adult life that’s has had to analyze safety issues on a daily basis for decades I can say with great confidence that this runway and spawn placement design is the problem. It is catastrophic event waiting for a place to happen. Operator/user error is a non factor. 

    On planet earth when an aircraft from runway X magically appears in the middle of ACTIVE runway Y, that’s a huge effing problem gents! 

    I assumed the fix was obvious but apparently not so I’ll spell it out just in case. 

    Do not spawn the plane from runway Y in the middle of runway X. Where the JU 88 spawned in the video, Move the spawn point out of the runway I was taking off from. So basically move the JU88 spawn pint inthe direction the JU was facing about 25 to 30 yards. About the length of the JU88. 

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    TTZ_Dipsy
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    6 years ago

    @Psychopski 

    I wasn't paying as much attention as I should have the last time and figured you drifted way more than you did - regardless, after rewatching it a few times it was painfully obvious the plane was infront of you the entire time; whether it spawned in that location or the guy purposely backed up to troll you, you had more than enough time to move, stop, or slow down, whatever - that one was on you.

    Planes occupy the same strip all the time in real life, other guy just had to move forward and you should have positioned your camera better.

  • @TTZ_DipsyAre you being serious or just trolling?

    As you can see in the video the JU88 spawned in the middle of my runway when I was about 20 yards away. It’s physically impossible to stop or avoid the collision at that speed and distance.

    If you’ve played the game and played that map you’d know what’s happening. Do you actually play the game? 


    As the video shows briefly switched to back to cockpit view prior and the view of the runway was worse. I use the cockpit view all the time with free look in BFV but from flying the JU87 in flight sims since the late 1990’s I know I’m not gong to see much of the runway from the cockpit till my tail lifts off. 

    Also I have zero control over the default camera angles AS YOU SHOULD KNOW if you actually still play the game.

    Do you even play this map and have you taken off from that particular  runway? You do know there are TWO different runways adjacent to each other at that location with two different spawn points? It seems that you in fact do not know the layout. 

    My FOV setting for aircraft is maxed and there are no camera angle options for Xbox One. 

    I’m done responding because you’re obviously a
    complete * and a waste of my time.  I seriously hope you don’t have any really important responsibilities IRL because you either lack good judgement and/or make excuses for others when you have no first hand knowledge of what the F you are talking about. 

  • TTZ_Dipsy's avatar
    TTZ_Dipsy
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    6 years ago

    @Psychopski 

    You could see it the moment you spawned in, it's completely your fault for not doing anything to avoid/stop it. You had soldiers running and driving across and a blue marker showing a plane infront, seems like you just weren't paying attention. Of course you can work the camera to see better

  • It’s my fault the devs put an aircraft spawn point inside the runway? 

    ok boss. You’re either a dev or the biggest kiss * of all time for the devs.



    You’re actually defending a plane being spawned inside another runway that’s used by other planes. 


    Thete are two different spawns at that loc. FYI

  • TTZ_Dipsy's avatar
    TTZ_Dipsy
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    6 years ago

    That much salt is bad for your health mate.

    It's literally the first time seeing a post of someone claiming this so excuuuuuse me mr army pilot if I find it hard to believe the plane actually spawned in that exact spot and didn't just back up from the other runway to troll you which makes more sense.

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