EA Staff (Retired)Even at high rank play the level differences are frustrating, because a lot of strategy and tactics assumes some basic ability to predict how units will interact - what trades with what, what counters what, etc.
A huge impact for example was that at level 7 Nod Bikes can kill an Orca in a single volley. Prior to that level that and the 3 bike missiles leave the Orca slightly alive (which leaves the Orca still a threat given how it works). If a Nod player is running a deck and relying solely on Bikes as their AA, I should be able to punish that with clever Orca usage. However, if they have higher level bikes then it basically becomes a hard counter.
Given the way the game works, when a level difference changes the balance between how units counter each other to this degree it's just frustrating. This is also very noticeable with how Bikes work against harvestors - the levels dictate whether it takes 3 or 4 volleys to kill a harvestor. This can decide games given how strong harvestor harassment is and how much getting an early 100 tiberium can snowball games.
In the latest patch most everybody is running very similar decks because Rhino and Buggy got overtuned along with Jackson/Oxanna. This results in a lot of mirror matches where players are countering each other with basically the same units - Bikes and Tanks vs. Bikes and Tanks - and it becomes noticeable how level differences affect the outcome.
Match making still messed up little today I'm lvl 11 vs a couple time lvl 4.....I'm sure they didn't like that
EA Staff (Retired)Hi @WADofFORCE,
Are you still running into players with much lower level units? And when that happened, were they in the same league as you or were they in a different league? Thanks!
Exactly what do you morons get paid for?
this is true
im noticing more and more air but not enough ground to take care or it esp the nod super air that has 2 fire missiles needs to be only one with reload time and lower health
The biggest * I faced today. Out harvest by a level 3 harvester and out produce by this opponent (pls check your history on my ID if you want evidence - u r admin, u shud hv access).My harvester is level 10 by the way. How ridiculous can this game be ???? How low and idiotically unbalance do you want this game to continue with ??? It seems that it can only be worse...not better. Seriously, EA-Dance pls improve the balance and matching. It’s becoming utterly ridiculous. If only I can shared the match here right now. Am feeling cheated by this game as I was so naive that I spend money buying diamonds. So I would make it my job to continue spreading the news to all new comer not to spend on diamonds. It’s really a waste of money. It’s not even matching up to the pay to win concept. The imbalance is just too great.
@totorodc12345Here’s the thing about matchmaking. If you suck and lose all the time, you’ll stay in a lower league with other people that suck and you’ll face people with units with the same level as you. People that suck or are mediocre, end up staying in the league they are in. The ones that suck stay there and the mediocre ones progress slowly. The good ones leave quickly.
If you are good and progress to a higher league, you’ll face people in that league that you just made it to. They’ll have higher units than you. You have to face them. They aren’t going to match you up with people that are in a lower league that you just left. They’ll match you with people that are in the league you are in.
It’s sort of like baseball. If you are good and make it out of the minor leagues into the major leagues, once you are in the major leagues, you’ll face the best of that league.
So now that you just made it out of silver league for example and are now in gold league, you are facing people in gold league that are stuck there because they suck or just passing through if they are mediocre or good. The good ones will make it out of gold league into the next league. The ones that suck or are mediocre will stay there leveling up their units. You have to be good enough to beat them to progress into the next league.
To be good enough to beat the people in the league you are in now, you only have 2 options. One is to outplay them. The other is to outspend them and make your units higher than theirs. Most players do a combination of both.
In this game, you’ll always face people that have higher units than you if you make it out of your league.
The only way way to fix that is not to have leagues at all and only match you against people that have the same units as you. But if you do that, you’ll face the same people over and over again. That’s what’s happening at tiberium league now. They have nowhere to go so they end up facing each other indefinitely.
