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6 years ago

Matchmaking - how do you manipulate it?

Hi,

I really want to know how that matchmaking works in detail. Everyone knows that you get stuck at certain points while progressing, it is more than obvious that there are mechanics which won't let you get further immediately. So, the question is not if or why ($) games are manipulated by matchmaking in a bad way, the question is: Is there a dev/mod who is honorable enough to explain it?

https://www.pcgamesn.com/ea-matchmaking-microtransactions-eomm-engagement-patent

https://mein-mmo.de/ea-patent-unfaires-matchmaking/

cheers

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  • Sadly, there is nothing evil or menacing about it. When you click battle, the game looks to see if someone is hosting a game with your medal value (GDI or NOD, not combined). If there isn't any open games for you to join, then you instead host a game with a tight medal value. If nobody joins, then again you look to see if you can join a game. If again you can't join, then you host with a slightly expanded medal value. This repeats for some time until the game gets desperate and begins to look to other servers to join/host your match.

    That is why I caution all newer players about win streaks and about old challenge battles. Sure, going up leagues feels great, but you are literally making the game harder for yourself.

    Redwood studio's doesn't need some evil matchmaking based on encouraging micro transactions. We are dumb enough to do it for them.
  • I can confirm what Battalia is saying. BUT... there is one more thing...

    If you have a MASSIVE loose streak, I'm talking 10 games or so, it will actually try to match you with people of lower leagues. Since I currently don't want to climb out of diamond league ( even if I easily could) because I don't want to face lvl 13 units ( I don't even have a single lvl 11 unit yet! ) and because I HATE the master league maps, I sometimes let myself drop from diamond 1 to diamond 3, only to climb up to diamond 1 again. During this time, I can face diamond 3 opponents when I'm diamond 1, and if I let my loosestreak grow even bigger, I can get matched even with plat enemies. My record was to fight platinum 3 as diamond 3. But as soon as you win just 1 match, you will instantly face only enemies of similar rank as you.

    So basically, the matchmaking works just as intended. If you have a loose streak, the game actually helps you. But if you have a massive winstreak (which I also had), nothing changes, so you will NOT face higher ranked opponents.

    Once got matched with bikerush himself (rank 1 player) while I was in diamond, no idea how this happened... I guess the matchmaking didn't find a master/tib player at the time he queued up and he was in queue for a long time, so it randomly chose me. I often see that diamonds get matched against tib players. This sounds bad for the diamonds, but they get a challenge match in literally every match so it doesn't affect them at all. However, it hurts the tib players, since they only get 8 medals per win. And if they loose ( for whatever reason lol ) they loose quite a bit, I've seen someone loose 40 at once, ouch. In addition to that, tib players do not enjoy playing against diamonds, since it's most of the time no challenge. Alicia Destiny is tired of getting those +8's xD

  • Thanks for your replies. As expected, no mod or EA representative answered.

    @BattaIiaI had your opinion, too. But it just aint that simple, to keep it short:

    There are proofs that EA is researching/developing on "dynamic matchmaking" with the purpose to increase microtransactions. They have patents on it, just google it. So you really think that a company which developed a mechanism that increases their income (proofed) and already used it on players (proofed) just dont use it on the game you play?

    Sorry, that's naive. In best case.

    cheers

  • EA_dance210's avatar
    EA_dance210
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    6 years ago

    Hiya @longjohn87686,

    Apologies for not responding sooner. Battalia answer how the matchmaking system in Rivals works, so I (incorrectly) assumed that your question had been answered.

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