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Anonymous

10 years ago

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Inquisition: Separate games, separate computers, shared collections?

I'm not sure how to describe my problem succinctly. Background: I am playing Inquisition on two different computers, totally separate games. I've got two games on my desktop computer at home, and a...

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Leora85
10 years ago
@EmberVoices I unresolved it for you 🙂

And yes, I'm not a fan of the way the saved game files are named, either. Through much tedium I managed to put all my finished characters within their own folders, after more than 10 characters it was a mess. 😛 I have never seen that cloudsave.tmp file in my save folder, though. Only .DAS and the two profile files (which I should have remembered to mention, don't copy those to other computers unless they have the same setup, it's where your graphics options etc. are saved). Was a cloud sync in progress or something when you looked?

Don't quite understand what you mean by 'combine them'? Unless your second computer created characters with the same save number as the first computer, there shouldn't be an issue.

Trying to explain save files with an uncooperative brain (so apologies, it hides words from me, or sometimes doesn't tell me when I'm typing the completely wrong word) :

Each character has it's own save number... thing. That's how I think of it, anyway. Basically, all saves for one character will be the same "DAISAVEU###D91F3C39.DAS". The last 8 hexadecimal (0-9, A-F) digits are specific to each character. Every DAISAVEU (user/manual save), DAISAVECHAP (think this is like a checkpoint save), DAISAVEAUTO (autosave) and DAISAVEQUIK (quick save) will have those same 8 digits for one character. The user/manual saves also have the other 3 digits, which is really only useful to know if you're planning on using the save editor.

So, as long as none of your separate characters have been assigned the same save number, you shouldn't have any issue merging your save folders (just... don't copy the 2 profile files, they should stay specific to the computer. And probably don't copy that temp cloud file, either). So if you copy your main computer saves onto the laptop, then disable cloud saving for the laptop (you can leave it on the other computer), or vice versa, you should have access to everything your other characters have exported to the nug, and you don't need to worry about the cloud overwriting your saves on either computer. Or if you don't want a giant mess on your laptop, only get the last save from each completed character to copy over. Then you'll have the nug and less mess. 😉

As for the way the game files are organised, this is the first game Bioware have made using the Frostbite 3 engine (it's a completely separate game and engine from DAO and DA2, hence the need for the keep, the game files aren't compatible), so they probably didn't have much choice in the matter. It would be nice to be able to name our saves, though.

OK... I think that maybe made sense? If it didn't, tell me which parts, I might do better with smaller parts at a time. 😛 Hope it helps. 🙂

Anonymous

10 years ago

To answer your other question, when I went to start the new game on my laptop, the cloud did not allow me to update, so I initially *had* to play separate games. It was perhaps a function of timing, but since the two places I have machines I also have different "audiences" so to speak, it's also helpful to have separate continuities.

I have been a little worried about how the DragonAgeKeep backgrounds work when I update one for one game... does it apply them to all of them retroactively? This is a very confusing process that seems to assume that while you should totally play all the different options, you should only ever be in the middle of one game at a time. That doesn't actually make sense to me. That's not how I play. I get bored with one character after a while and go try something else, then I miss the other character and go back to it for a while.

That worked fine with Origins and II (and any number of other games I've played, for that matter), but with Inquisition, things got complicated.

-E-

Leora85

Hero+

10 years ago

Not sure what you mean about the Keep. The data the game uploads to the Keep as you play will only affect the character you're playing, so it shouldn't matter which of your current games you're playing, the Keep will upload your data to the correct character in 'playthrough states'. Or is that not what you meant? Sorry, having issues with... thinking at the moment.

I think that, if you want to keep things simple, it'd be easiest to copy your saves (if you want the Nug stuff) and disable cloud saving on one of the games, and just remember to backup your saves regularly in case of disaster (though to be honest, most save related disasters seem to happen as a result of cloud saving, so they might be safer 😛 ).

I think that all made sense...

Anonymous
10 years ago
That all made plenty enough sense for me.
I think my plan is sound, based on the information you've given me, thank you!
And yeah, if the Keep uploads only affect the game that's active at the time, then I'm doing just fine!
Thank you for the help :D
--Ember--
Anonymous
10 years ago
SNERT
Is there a way to un-resolve?
So I did find and copy the Save folder, not thinking to look *inside* it. You know how in DA:O and DAII there are character folders? Yeah, not so much.
Inquisition saves look like this: "DAISAVEU002D91F3C39.DAS" and "cloudsavesqf1540.tmp"
The files are all encoded.
I see no way to combine them. My only realistic options are to not use the cloud to synch anymore (in which case I gather the Nug operates separately anyway), or just give up on the machine with less game info, and move on with the games on my main computer overriding the save on my laptop.
*sigh*
I have to say, this is one thing about how they organized the game system that does *not* impress me. It wasn't broken, guys, why'd you "fix" it??
--Ember--
- Leora85
  Hero+
  10 years ago
  @EmberVoices I unresolved it for you 🙂
  
  And yes, I'm not a fan of the way the saved game files are named, either. Through much tedium I managed to put all my finished characters within their own folders, after more than 10 characters it was a mess. 😛 I have never seen that cloudsave.tmp file in my save folder, though. Only .DAS and the two profile files (which I should have remembered to mention, don't copy those to other computers unless they have the same setup, it's where your graphics options etc. are saved). Was a cloud sync in progress or something when you looked?
  
  Don't quite understand what you mean by 'combine them'? Unless your second computer created characters with the same save number as the first computer, there shouldn't be an issue.
  
  Trying to explain save files with an uncooperative brain (so apologies, it hides words from me, or sometimes doesn't tell me when I'm typing the completely wrong word) :
  
  Each character has it's own save number... thing. That's how I think of it, anyway. Basically, all saves for one character will be the same "DAISAVEU###D91F3C39.DAS". The last 8 hexadecimal (0-9, A-F) digits are specific to each character. Every DAISAVEU (user/manual save), DAISAVECHAP (think this is like a checkpoint save), DAISAVEAUTO (autosave) and DAISAVEQUIK (quick save) will have those same 8 digits for one character. The user/manual saves also have the other 3 digits, which is really only useful to know if you're planning on using the save editor.
  
  So, as long as none of your separate characters have been assigned the same save number, you shouldn't have any issue merging your save folders (just... don't copy the 2 profile files, they should stay specific to the computer. And probably don't copy that temp cloud file, either). So if you copy your main computer saves onto the laptop, then disable cloud saving for the laptop (you can leave it on the other computer), or vice versa, you should have access to everything your other characters have exported to the nug, and you don't need to worry about the cloud overwriting your saves on either computer. Or if you don't want a giant mess on your laptop, only get the last save from each completed character to copy over. Then you'll have the nug and less mess. 😉
  
  As for the way the game files are organised, this is the first game Bioware have made using the Frostbite 3 engine (it's a completely separate game and engine from DAO and DA2, hence the need for the keep, the game files aren't compatible), so they probably didn't have much choice in the matter. It would be nice to be able to name our saves, though.
  
  OK... I think that maybe made sense? If it didn't, tell me which parts, I might do better with smaller parts at a time. 😛 Hope it helps. 🙂
  - Anonymous
    10 years ago
    Oh, wow, that's super helpful, ok. I got the impression from the way the files were named that all the save information was in one file together.
    If each file is a save with just a complicated name, then yeah, I can still combine them.
    -E-