The Death of Dragon Age and Bioware.
I hope someone in EA reads this and understands that most of your players are not into sjw leftist politics. the fact that your lead narrative director outright said that DA4 will be political and ...
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loupgaroudei schrieb:
I replied with a long and well thought out statement but it didn't post. TL:DR version just look at fan reactions and negative reviews because of the politics.
This is anecdotal at best.
People who don't like something are always more inclined to speak out about it as people who like something or people who simply don't care.
Only because you see a few hundred post on the internet doesn't mean that there is a large enough group of people to really influence the sales of DA4 in the future.
Especially because there are plenty of people in this debate that don't care for this game, or games in general at all, but only want to fight some "cultural war", want to make some money on YouTube, or want to bring there own political agenda forward.
My point remains.
And if you don't want "politics jammed in" you should not try to do exactly that.
@holger1405 wrote:
loupgaroudei schrieb:I replied with a long and well thought out statement but it didn't post. TL:DR version just look at fan reactions and negative reviews because of the politics.
This is anecdotal at best.
People who don't like something are always more inclined to speak out about it as people who like something or people who simply don't care.
Only because you see a few hundred post on the internet doesn't mean that there is a large enough group of people to really influence the sales of DA4 in the future.
Especially because there are plenty of people in this debate that don't care for this game, or games in general at all, but only want to fight some "cultural war", want to make some money on YouTube, or want to bring there own political agenda forward.
My point remains.
And if you don't want "politics jammed in" you should not try to do exactly that.
Not arguing this anymore. We will see what happens when the game comes out and if those politics are interjected as I mentioned who is right about this.
We are just running the gambit of circular arguments.
I'm only interested in what Ataashi presented to me and he or she will be the only person I respond to if they are not adding to that portion of the conversation.
While I am not EA, you did blow off my whole point of politics always being in the game with the idea of "well it was game related...."
Maybe, but it was still politics and actually related to real world and making statements about real world issues, they just don't happen to be a hot button for you. Let's take the City Elves...hmm, lets see, forced to live in Ghettos in a major city as the lower class workforce of a dominate race and cultures demands....hmmm, in the US here, I can think of a group typically stereotyped like that....
Grey Wardens...willing to do ANYTHING to get the job done, laws or rules don't apply...hmm, you don't know ANY group that espouses that in real life, or people who believe that should be the way?? US alphabet letter government groups, certain hate groups, certain political groups when it comes to them getting their way??
Like I said earlier, it was always in there, and games often comment in either subtle or obvious ways on their society when they were created. This is why games and tropes change but often stay the same. Heck, look at how many people USED to love a game where you "won" at the end and got the girl, and yet now that is called "childish" and "unoriginal" as some of the kindest remarks for games who do this now. NOW people want "dark" "edgy" "gritty" and "mature themed" endings...which to me means if your character doesn't have a good chance being miserable or dead at the end of the game, it isn't nowadays considered "a good story"....heck, I saw people over on FC5 forum calling that game a good story cause Ubi decided to nuke the world instead of letting you off the badguy...
Now as from Krem....I could take it or leave it, and can miss 99% of the convo about him if I wanted, but he DOES add to the story and show insight into both Tevinter AND the Qunari cultures. Does this character play any role or will the info you learned here make any difference??? No clue, wiil have to wait until the next game, which is likely going to be set in Tevinter. Honestly, the DA writers have done a real good job in how they have handled characters, and story, so I have no worries on that score. But only time will tell.
