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@censurely wrote:That just isn't always feasible... there are probably thousands of particular hw and sw purmutations of hardware that just won't work with their software. In the particular case of 4 logic cores... the vast majority of folks don't know the difference between 4 logic cores / threads and CPU cores (pasted on the side of their computer). They decided it was safer to just say it required 4 cores (of reasonable frequency) and the folks with less can 1) gamble or 2) wait a day or two and find out for sure. (we've been ignoring #2 here... obviously if folks just waited a few days they would have a much clearer idea of if the game will work with their older system from the folks that knowingly choose to gamble).
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What? They don't have to list every CPU or GPU that won't work. They just need mention what that CPU or GPU needs to work. There are not thousands of GPU/CPU features, and certainly fewer that would be "requirements." I am personally in group #2, but there had to have been somebody in group #1 for group #2 to work. My whole argument is how the publisher and consumer can communicate better and alleviate such conflicts. I don't think it is impossible or even hard to put on the box, "This game will not run with fewer than four cores." Then the more technically minded can choose to gamble with four-threaded dual-cores, or whatever. The layman would be safe if this was on the box though.
Well, if we're going to be realistic there will always be a lot of people in group 1. There will always be folks that will buy the game, ignore all the clearly marked warnings (however well they are formulated), and then come to the forums to complain when they shockingly have problems. If you chose to be in group 1 that is your choice.
There will always be a better warming that could be put on any box. It says Quad Core required (both AMD and Intel). That should be good enough (particularly if you choose to stay in group 2 rather than choosing to be in group 1 and gamble).
- Anonymous11 years ago
@censurely wrote:Well, if we're going to be realistic there will always be a lot of people in group 1. There will always be folks that will buy the game, ignore all the clearly marked warnings (however well they are formulated), and then come to the forums to complain when they shockingly have problems. If you chose to be in group 1 that is your choice.
There will always be a better warming that could be put on any box. It says Quad Core required (both AMD and Intel). That should be good enough (particularly if you choose to stay in group 2 rather than choosing to be in group 1 and gamble).-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Certainly, there will be more people to complain. But they have very little leverage and power in their complaints in that situation. Again, I already explained why "Quad Core required" means almost nothing. There have been a dozen games released this year with the exact same message, and all of them worked on dual-cores.
- Anonymous11 years ago
"There have been a dozen games released this year with the exact same message, and all of them worked on dual-cores. "
Well.. then you get in to how you choose define "worked". I'm sure your definition of "worked" is not really the same as everyone else. Does the game start? Probably? Is it playable? Maybe, depends on a lot of variables that won't necessarily fit on a sticker on the back of a box. - Anonymous11 years ago
@censurely wrote:"There have been a dozen games released this year with the exact same message, and all of them worked on dual-cores. "
Well.. then you get in to how you choose define "worked". I'm sure your definition of "worked" is not really the same as everyone else. Does the game start? Probably? Is it playable? Maybe, depends on a lot of variables that won't necessarily fit on a sticker on the back of a box.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My Pentium g3258 can play all games, 1080p, 30fps, at the very least medium settings (Watch Dogs being the most demanding, and the only game that must be medium) except Dragon Age Inquisition (for now.) So I think almost everybody would explain that as "worked." Here's a list of games which required Quad-Cores released this year, that I can play at medium or above with my G3258 and a r9 280x.Ryse requires: CPU: Dual core with HyperThreading technology or quad core CPU - Plays at high settings 1080p on my PC.
Watch Dogs requires: CPU: Core 2 Quad Q8400 2.66GHz - Can play at medium settings 1080p
Shadow of Mordor requires: CPU: Intel Core i5-750 - Can almost max this game 1080p
The Evil Within requires: CPU: Core-i7 or an equivalent 4+ core processor - Can play this game at High 1080p 45 FPS
Assasin's Creed Unity: CPU: @Intel Core i5-2500K @ 3.3 GHz - Can play this at high settings 1080p 30fps.
@Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare: Intel Core i3-530 @ 2.93 GHz - I max this game 60fps.
Far Cry 4: Quad Core requirement - Video shows 30fps med-high settings on my CPU with a worse GPU.
Fifa 15: Quad Core requirement - Runs on two threaded CPU high settings with some stutter.
Lords of the Fallen: Core 2 Quad Q8400 2.66GHz - Runs on G3258 at similar settings, from what I've read.
Those are 9 games that I can think of with four-threaded requirements that not only work on my CPU model, but they work great.