Hey drivers, The newest patch is now available across all platforms. You can find out what's in this patch in this thread here Need some help? Something in the patch not working the way it should? Tell us in this thread! -rephii

It's been almost two full months since release that a large percentage of your customers can't use FFB on their products.It's been two years since VR was 'implemented' in such a way as to be nearly unusable.Volumetric fog continues to make night races unplayable (fun fact, Bahrain at night was literally the FIRST RACE of F1 23, immediately showing this problem, and you people released the game anyway?). I'll say it again for those who need to hear it a second time: THE FIRST RACING EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME SHOWCASES THIS BUG.Red flags are still broken.Safety cars are still broken.You want to know why your sales are down year after year? It's because you're incompetent. You advertise new features that don't even work, and clearly don't do any testing of your own product before releasing it.Not once has anyone from EA apologized for the state of the game. People who value integrity would've delayed the game in the first place. People who simply have integrity would've at least apologized.You did neither.I look forward to watching your sales numbers plummet until the series has to be canceled and the license goes to someone who actually cares about F1, and their customers.Edit: One more thing - you took two weeks to fix the cockpit camera bug that YOU CAUSED. Other gaming companies would have shown respect to their customers by immediately implementing a hotfix patch to fix their own screwup, but not our good ol' EA buddies! Nothing lights a fire under your backsides. Not broken FFB, not bugs your own incompetence caused, not major "new" features that don't work.The only timeline you pay any attention to is your own convenience. To hell with those fools who actually pay your salary, eh! Those pesky customers should be grateful they get anything at all, am I right?!

Realistically I think apologies for game performance not matching people's expectations generally doesn't happen (have you ever seen one?) for two reasons:The bad PR would be huge. As in, look everyone, this game is so bad they even publicly apologised for it.If a product is admitted to be defective you're then getting into potentially tricky territory re. refunds.As far as I'm concerned nobody should expect one and it wouldn't make any difference if it happened anyway. Also, do you think anyone working on the game is happy that there are significant ongoing issues? Of course they aren't. This thread really isn't the right place to be discussing this though, as it's detracting from people trying to highlight new issues following the latest update.

The F1 World tech changes has improved nothing. Granted, I'm now 4 seconds a lap faster than the AI instead of 6, but that's it. Shove the tech modifier up and you end up with noobs in rocket ships. Fast in straight lines but can't handle a fight. Only played it for 5 minutes and the problems were instantly visible, how the testers didn't notices this beggars belief. New year, same old story.Leaving the AI difficulty locked at 35% is what's holding the whole feature back. I can't believe it's just being left that way.Edit: It just feels like, for the past few years, when there's a fix needed, the minimum amount of effort possible is put into it, corners are cut, compromises are made, and it becomes just surface-level, papering over the cracks."But for this to work properly, you need to fix this aswell""Nah, just do this and leave it. It'll take too much time and effort, need to work on the eSports model anyway. Besides, this game is only for casuals now, they won't notice."That's how it feels.

This sums it up @Trekari wrote: It's been almost two full months since release that a large percentage of your customers can't use FFB on their products. It's been two years since VR was 'implemented' in such a way as to be nearly unusable. Volumetric fog continues to make night races unplayable (fun fact, Bahrain at night was literally the FIRST RACE of F1 23, immediately showing this problem, and you people released the game anyway?). I'll say it again for those who need to hear it a second time: THE FIRST RACING EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME SHOWCASES THIS BUG. Red flags are still broken. Safety cars are still broken. You want to know why your sales are down year after year? It's because you're incompetent. You advertise new features that don't even work, and clearly don't do any testing of your own product before releasing it. Not once has anyone from EA apologized for the state of the game. People who value integrity would've delayed the game in the first place. People who simply have integrity would've at least apologized. You did neither. I look forward to watching your sales numbers plummet until the series has to be canceled and the license goes to someone who actually cares about F1, and their customers. Edit: One more thing - you took two weeks to fix the cockpit camera bug that YOU CAUSED. Other gaming companies would have shown respect to their customers by immediately implementing a hotfix patch to fix their own screwup, but not our good ol' EA buddies! Nothing lights a fire under your backsides. Not broken FFB, not bugs your own incompetence caused, not major "new" features that don't work. The only timeline you pay any attention to is your own convenience. To hell with those fools who actually pay your salary, eh! Those pesky customers should be grateful they get anything at all, am I right?! This sums it up very well. It's awful. Not once was there an apology to the huge playerbase not being able to play for 2 months. They just don't care. They got the money and that's all they want anyway. I sincerely hope the sales continue to plummet and they get what they deserve. For the fact this is a racing game, it's incredible that all these FFB issues are still around and simply won't be patched. At least have the decency to offer refunds to those who are screwed by all these issues or offer an apology. We know that EA has never cared about their customers. F1 is a new low tho. [Edited] CM Edited post to clean things up to align with rules.

@Iceman038-NL wrote:Only EA influence is MONETIZATION. Just look at the season pass. Where you normally would get around 10000 pitcoin on the free pass with less levels, now they give you 2500 in total on 50! Levels.This part isn't actually true. From the first year of Podium Pass (F1 2020) it has never been possible to earn enough pitcoins from the free tier to buy VIP access for the next. The model has always been that to be self-funding you'd need to buy VIP access to the first Podium Pass season to then be able to earn enough Pitcoins to buy VIP access to the following season, etc. I forget now whether the free/VIP Pitcoin availability was 2500/7500 or something else but at best is was 5000/5000 and definitely not 10000/0.

F1® 23 - Patch 1.09 Discussion Thread

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Iceman038-NL
2 years ago
@ArkaniaDante

I’m sorry… but WHAT Codemasters name? You DO realize that CM still makes the game right? And that it’s CM dev team that ignores everything for years even before EA takeover.

Only EA influence is MONETIZATION. Just look at the season pass. Where you normally would get around 10000 pitcoin on the free pass with less levels, now they give you 2500 in total on 50! Levels.

And don’t get me started on the pitcoin i still havent received from simply buying the game. I tried support but they don’t even take you serious, and here it’s no better. Theres so many people who havent gotten their 5000 or 18000 coins yet but nobody gets any help whatsoever
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
2 years ago
@Iceman038-NL wrote:

Only EA influence is MONETIZATION. Just look at the season pass. Where you normally would get around 10000 pitcoin on the free pass with less levels, now they give you 2500 in total on 50! Levels.
This part isn't actually true. From the first year of Podium Pass (F1 2020) it has never been possible to earn enough pitcoins from the free tier to buy VIP access for the next. The model has always been that to be self-funding you'd need to buy VIP access to the first Podium Pass season to then be able to earn enough Pitcoins to buy VIP access to the following season, etc. I forget now whether the free/VIP Pitcoin availability was 2500/7500 or something else but at best is was 5000/5000 and definitely not 10000/0.
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@Ultrasonic_77 Yup.. pay 9000 get 7500 back plus 2500 from standard pass
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
2 years ago
What I will say I don't know is whether it now takes more gameplay hours to earn all the Pitcoins in a particular series or not, as I didn't play during series 1 enough to see what it took to max this out.
Meza994
2 years ago
@Ultrasonic_77 Its easily done by doing very short F1 World races, they give you about 1750xp when winning the race even 5 lap races which is about a third of level 50 or so and much more on lower levels how much longer that is than the quick ways of previous games i dunno but it definitely isnt way too long
s00zster
2 years ago
@gmhsv1 Sadly yes. And a lot of it is pointlessly drawn out.

It's trying to be Gran Turismo (plus Call of Duty with the looty upgrades, a feature I initally thought interesting but got tired of very quickly, it's kid's stuff), but it's just "do 5 races at Austria with diminishing assists" and I drive with no assists anyway, so it's pointless. It's a huge waste of time with little imagination. The one way I hoped it would be made anywhere near playable was through unlocking the difficulty, and that's not happening.

So they've spent god knows how much time and money on another feature that barely anyone will play or find fun, that on top of Sofa Simulator last year, who the hell is signing off these ridiculous ideas?

Codemasters need to go back to basics - career, MyTeam and multiplayer. That's it. Stick to those, fix and improve them. AI behaviour, AI mistakes, better damage model, wet lines, drying lines, sector by sector weather, driver goals, better contract system, better driver acclaim system, offers from other teams instead of being able to pick anyone, I could go on. Stick to the core game and make it the best instead of wasting time and money on this rubbish.
StarKIndMan
2 years ago
Guys one solution is the F1 Official body must revoke the licence from EA/Codies and pass this over to someone that actually cares about F1 and give us Community best ever F1 game we could ever dream, there are great companies that can make an unbelievable F1 game!
I would say writing down a letter to the director of F1 and all regulatory bodies put an petition and end this nonsense of EA/Codies with this unbelievable joke of a game we have year after year! I would say I do not need a every year game what we need is well made and built and engineered F1 game that we can all love and enjoy not a copy paste!
Iceman038-NL
2 years ago
@StarKIndMan wrote:
Guys one solution is the F1 Official body must revoke the licence from EA/Codies and pass this over to someone that actually cares about F1 and give us Community best ever F1 game we could ever dream, there are great companies that can make an unbelievable F1 game!
I would say writing down a letter to the director of F1 and all regulatory bodies put an petition and end this nonsense of EA/Codies with this unbelievable joke of a game we have year after year! I would say I do not need a every year game what we need is well made and built and engineered F1 game that we can all love and enjoy not a copy paste!
I have actually tried to contact F1/FOM/FIA/Liberty media on that case, eedirecting them to the CM forums technical issues as well as some topics like this.Never had response but believe me, I TRIED!
regarding the pitcoins, i wasn’t all sure, but I knew it was self sustaining each year and I never needed to buy extra because i managed to get it through pass. First was lvl13 and so on, but this year it’s more levels but only 1 2500pc on the free trail.

plus the fact that I never got my 5000 PC from buying the normal version, and a lot no 18000PC, shows that taking your money is easy done, but providing service and giving you what you paid for is just simply arrogant. The customer service makes you want to bang your head to the wall if you see the mail exchange. And still no pitcoins
disgraceful
RobbyJr24
2 years ago
After this beautiful update, i did more than 5 race, and still have this bug.
+ Scenarios bug, after the race, not got any legendary items...
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
2 years ago
@RobbyJr24 wrote:
After this beautiful update, i did more than 5 race, and still have this bug.
+ Scenarios bug, after the race, not got any legendary items...
Was the Goals section working for you on the previous patch, or has it never been unlocked for you?

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