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Nuvolarix
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago

F1 24 - AI wings setup more similar to the player

Hi CM,

this is a big point in offline racing which I'm used to play: if AI has similar wings setup it means similar speed and close racing with the player. This year only in few track I've raced so far it's achieved. I'm not sure the default setup is what AI effectively uses, but according to my race experience may be not too far from that.

Here a table I created, first columns are WR setup wings, last columns my race setup, to be compared with default setting divided in rows by preset.

For example AI (should) use preset 5 in Monza, according with WR and MyR setup preset5 is fine.

In Spa-Francorchamps AI uses preset 5, which is fine according to WR TT setup, preset4 would be closer according to my R setup.

(Note: I've not raced in ##### tracks yet)

In general high speed tracks (preset 5) like Monza/Spa are OK, some of the preset 3 are OK too (Jeddah, Silverstone), Las Vegas is also OK from preset 4, while the most of the tracks are bad, look at Interlagos, Mexico, Bahrain or Losail !!! It's probably an inheritance of F1 22 where the presets were practically identical, but the player setups had much lower wings according to the handling model.

Now as I already said, I'm not 100% sure AI use preset setup, but from my experience in the most of the tracks I lack speed in the straights which greatly worsens realism and the user experience in general.

My wish for F1 24 is a more precise study of the AI setups based on the handling model, to be more similar to the user ones.

Thanks,

Nuv

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  • @Nuvolarix the problem with the setups is pretty big apart from some small differences in the race but which setup you use you use inverted wings etc you go fast the same when instead you should have clear differences....we don't even have any news on which path they are going 0
  • @Nuvolarix I’m thinking this years game the Ai controlled cars setup’s are irrelevant. As latter half off race. Game overrides Ai control and puts their cars on rails and disables damage. They then all go at set speed (Added to the code) regardless of what their setup.

    Rumour has it. It’s due to all various game modes(F1 world) being co dependent and using same in game Ai. Basically Ai in some races was getting mixed messages. One second it’s following regular Ai difficulty then the next F1 World tech level which I’m guessing having seen various videos relating to training racing Ai. It’s actually quite funny seeing Ai all off sudden loses its 💩. That similar was happening. Rumour also has it fixing it is very complex and time consuming to the point. Not to fix it at all and just use the old on rails method back before Ai didn’t know how to race
  • Nuvolarix's avatar
    Nuvolarix
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    Ouch I wasn’t aware, thank you for explanation, I hope they will fix then.

    My experience is not that bad actually, I have done 15-16 races (100%) so far, this year with AI110 and I find it quite consistent, I mean, in whole stints their pace is very similar to mine, except for the fact that in the most of the tracks (like described in the first post) I’m slightly faster in low-speed corners and bit slower in the straights, as if their setup (or coded speed) was not in line with the player.

    Nevertheless I had 3-4 of the best races ever this year, meaning close fight and so much fun

  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    2 years ago
    @Nuvolarix I’m guessing but, if you still do GP instead of Careers. I you may not even encounter any problems. When I was trying to find the reasons to my issues. I did a couple of GP races and I did find gameplay, was working as it should. It may be that because GP mode is grouped with F1 world whereas career isn’t. My gut is F1 world being the big selling point Codies need it to be working properly. So everything shared between different modes namely the Ai is F1 world so it’s not optimally setup for careers anymore. I don’t get direct answers and they never confirm or deny. But on this issue I was told yes they have recreated some things I’ve found but fixing it will cause issues in other areas off game: which is I’m guessing F1 is world
  • Nuvolarix's avatar
    Nuvolarix
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    So maybe that's the reason, I forgot to mention I'm (always) playing GP mode which seems to work fine except about AI max speed as written before. What a pity about Career 😞

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