F1® 24 [Megathread] Handling Feedback after patch 1.3

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@hassan8486 wrote:
@ADunkyI remember them saying it in f1 2020 or 2021. You are assuming it common knowledge doesn't make it common knowledge,, you can dislike the traction in f1 23, but why would you make this up, this doesn't help the situation.

You can compare between f1 23 and f1 cars from last season (telemetry data), they are very close.

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I'm not making it up. I might not exactly get it 100% on the year. But there's definitely a problem with sim races, whoare not real races driver, thinking how a car should behave.

A lot of the PC sims are easier to get the traction in down. Than the ea f1 games have been

We've got to be careful. We could be making it harder for the casuals. Less fun and less realistic. Especially as this game is simcade.

Didn't Lando Norris say the games was more realistic? Before the game come out. Now if he's being paid to say that, I don't know? 

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@hassan8486 wrote:
@DansmotorsportMaybe also the lap times are faster because you can take T7 and T9 flat out in Red Bull Ring. I'm sure real drivers didn't tell them that.

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Finding a perfect balance between high speed and slow speed corners was always a tricky task. Most of the time either of those was quite off to what it needed to be. 

Wheel user with zero assists. This update has spoilt what was a very enjoyable experience. Before the patch, the car had weight and you had to work hard to achieve. This new patch makes the car feel light, like it's floating. It's more like an arcade now than ever.

I have just experienced two short races.
Simply put, it feels better than before. But I am cautious about saying this. This is because it was so bad that it is better than that, but it does not mean that it is still good.

I don't believe the F123 has perfect handling. However, the level of completeness of handling as a game was high. So many people had fun there.
The F124 tried to get closer to reality and seemed to know what it was trying to pursue. It's experimental, but lacks perfection. I think the direction is right. I would like to see this kind of attempt after F123. It's gotten better, but there's still room left.

It's difficult to express the handling in words, but it has the movement of a real F1 car, but it feels sloppy.

Generally better than launch. It feels like it moves more under my control. It's more uniform and more predictable.
Still high grip feels close to a hover. I wish it felt like the tires were more attached to the road surface. When moving the steering, you will need to carefully walk the line between losing balance and having high grip. Handling just needs a little more development.

Traction feels medium at 23, but high at 24. Personally, I’m happy with 23’s traction.
However, the overall physics of this game are not good. We need to be more careful about curbs. When we see the WR time trial, we want to see it perfectly exploiting the kerb with a sharp line rather than riding it over the middle of the car. Racing lines should be more limited and clearly defined. And when we deviate from it, we have to take the loss.

This is a good result for a short period of time. Again, further improvement is still needed. There are many other bad aspects besides the handling, so I am not satisfied yet. It would be nice to see some improvement in handling next patch.

I use a controller to play, and I've noticed that the car tends to oversteer a lot in medium-speed corners throughout. At low speed, it can be too understeery on entry, but it can also be oversteery sometimes. The front end feels too sharp and snappy, making it difficult to input smoothly at the corner entry. I often have to wait for the car to settle before accelerating out of the corner to avoid losing traction and spinning out. Additionally, the car tends to spin out when I place a front wheel on the kerbs. Sometimes, I still experience wheel spin up to 5th gear when coming out of slow-speed corners.

@EA_Vendcera PC user with Fanatec wheel and pedals. I didn't have much issues pre patch and I don't have many issues now. The car does feel less pointy and more understeer-prone, but I'm not experiencing the amounts of wheel spin some users here are highlighting--not on corner exit, not on straights. I mean, if I don't feather the throttle properly, I would definitely get wheel spin but, in any case, it's easy to control by having smooth inputs. Same with oversteer, though here it's way too easy to catch the car when it snaps. I think this should be looked into, along with kerb riding--it's way too easy, not punishing almost at all. Traction overall feels a little too much in general. I kart in real life on a weekly basis, and although you can't compare a go-kart with an F1 car, I think some of the fundamentals are the same. It's not often that you can floor the throttle pedal immediately the way you're able in the game right now. Smooth inputs are crucial to keep the car stable and carry speed. Maybe this is why I'm not struggling with this new handling pre and post patch. Something I'd note is that, post patch, the front tires tend to want to lock up even with a rear-heavy bias setting. 

Having said all that, I think the feeling of realism in the game (using the word realism lightly here as I'm well aware the F1 games are not simulators) is far from being perfect, but I feel it's heading in a good direction. If I could influence the people working on the game, I'd ask them to look into the kerbs and make them punish you if you over do it--you can ride the chicane in Monaco without consequences, for example. The cars are also unrealistically fast. I'd love if they can bring lap times closer to real life and not 4 or 5 seconds faster--which is probably tied to excessive traction and very forgiving kerbs. I also feel that the contact model is rather forgiving. I have damage set to simulation and I've gotten hit relatively hard or touched by other cars and survived unscathed. In F123 and Automobilista 2 (which I also play) I would have been on the wall or my car mangled with a red flag or safety car triggered.

I'm finding the game enjoyable, with better racing in career mode than F123. Hope our collective feedback keeps improving the game for everyone.

PC: Steam

Wheel: Fanatec GT DD Pro & csl elite V2 pedals.

No assists 

The front end turn in feels reasonable still but feels more lazy like F1 23, A halfway point between release and now without the launch need for speed style drifting would fabulous so the car doesn't as heavy.

The curbs feel like they want to kill you again, the over rotation when on even a flat curb is too extreme. 

Rear traction feels really loose again like F1 23, acceleration out of 3rd and 4th gear low/mid speed corners spin the car very easily. These were a lot more stable with better drive ability pre patch.