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- goodhand123 years agoSeasoned Scout
@Dan78loki I feel this also in the regular career mode. I like the fact that ers + drs + slipstream is not overpowered anymore but the AI speed on the straight is still a lot, that combined with insane traction makes things very hard.
I would be ok with decreasing my AI level, I already did it by 10 points or so compared to 2021 and tried to lower that by 5 more points but it only affects the braking point and cornering, not traction. So less fun unfortunately! This needs to be fixed
@goodhand12Agree I find I'm struggling to keep the traction off corners to the ai.. my example would be the 1-2 turn at Bahrain. I barely keep traction with ai there and I certainly can't do it constantly over a race period
- ScarDuck143 years agoLegend
It’s just the slow corners that are killing me. Doesn’t want ai car is infront off me coming out off the last chicane at imola. They gain something stupid like half a second:
But then I get great exit speed onto the main straight compared to the ai infront where it’s blatantly clear a blind person could see how much faster I am. But as soon as I’m right up it’s gear box ers and drs all go. The ai just manages to maintain enough speed to stay just that bit infront I can’t even attempt a deep dive
- @ScarDuck14 Yead anything below 3rd gear is a struggle on the pad.
Sadly no sorry @Ultrasonic_77 ^^' I'm just a player who is trying to understand the issue to report it and maybe have it solved faster
On that note, i think with my discord group we can safely say that the issue is on engine upgrade not applying to our car.
We did a test, where we made a myteam with a renault engine and one with a ferrari engine, other than that, same setup, same car upgrades, same teammate, 100Ai, no assist, short qualy
With renault I did a 1:29:85 in barhain, 330 kph in speed trap
With Ferrari i did a 1:29:65 in Barhain, with 333kph in speed trap
I think the difference can be explained with me getting a better lap since I did ferrari after, and also engine caracteristic
Now for the real deal
Huklenberg did a 1:30:1 with renault
And a 1:28:4 with ferrari
Something is definitely up with engine upgrades, they do not apply to the player car. When I have the time, i'll redo a test to see if it wasn't a fluke.
Edit: I redid a test with renault which resulted in a 1:29:35 from Hulkenberg, which is more in expected results, but still confirms the engine problem suspicionEA_Hux
Look, I know training AI around 22 circuits was/is a task and a half especially when new ways of downforce generation was brought in for this year and future seasons, but we should at least be able to compete with the AI, Limitless (Content Creator) made a video about 0 AI on Grand Prix mode, last year he could catch them and pass them for position despite being a lap down and still do decently in a 5 lap race. This year did the same thing, put himself a lap down on the entire field and he could only unlap himself, he couldn't catch back up to the back of the pack like he could last year much less pass them.
Product: F1 22
Platform: PS5
Summarize your bug: The AI is way, way too OP on the straights out of corners
Which area is the bug/glitch in? All modes, mostly MyTeam for me though
How often does the bug occur? 100%
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Just go in a random race and race against the AI
What happens when the bug occurs?Tthe AI gain massive speeds out of corners and passing you in dangerous situations (high speed corners)
What do you expect to see? The AI not gaining speed advantages over the player and should not dive bomb you into high speed sections like in Jeddah
It's honestly just impossible in it's current state to compete right now for me, I'm not saying make the AI dumber, just reel them back on corner exit and straight line speed a bit, AI shouldn't gain half a second or you having DRS and they're pulling away, it's like they have DRS all the time and opening DRS makes it super DRS. I think I'm actually going to restart my MyTeam mode due to Bahrain race being bugged for me on another issue that I won't mention in this post.
- @nkzsry9q2v3n take the test with all the aids (a lot of people play with them, including me) you will see the problem coming out of a turn the tc aid is super badly adjusted has a very bad acceleration when the AI have a great exit.
@Man0maN13000 Did the test, I can attest on a loss of 2 tenth per big acceleration zone with TC full, and a best lap of around 1:30:2
I also did a new best lap with renault without tc of 1:29:7 (same session)
Something interesting to note, on the start of that lap, an Alpha Tauri was also starting one or two car lenght behind me, with the AT and myself on hotlap mode and with drs on, he was a car lenght in front of me at the end of the straight- ScarDuck143 years agoLegend
@nkzsry9q2v3n It’s actually similar to last year. Mainly last around 4 months.
I have played excess off 900 hours in myteam and never going further than 4 seasons as max car won title and constructors. Get bored and restart new my team using every power unit. But generally I’d stick to same answers in press interview. So apart from wether my first r&d passed for Bahrain the only variable was the engine.
I’ve started hundreds off my team careers last year.
And have posted on the change in engine performance or characteristics but as most people hadn’t played my team for months and didn’t care others think I was imagining things.
CM imo made changes to engine performance and wear to each power unit. But never changed the starting values your presented with at the beginning off myteam.But throughout Mercedes performance was always decent. But despite both Honda and Renault apparently being down on power compared to Mercedes’, Hondas top end speed at some point was around 5mph faster and Renault would be roughly the same as Mercedes. With Ferrari being slowest:
So my theory was gear ratios although I’m told they are all the same. So then as you say engine characteristics on how each power train delivers its power to the wheels
As you obviously know my-team car is heavy draggy lemon in the beginning.
I found when using Ferrari cars top end was slowest but it was also more prone to breaking traction during midrange accelerating.
Mercedes would behave in a similar way but easier to manage.
Whereas Both Honda and Renault would power through mid range without ever feeling or fearing breaking traction
And with every update engine performance t always seemed a little different but most noticeable to me was a increase in Ferrari performance. almost as though the devs were using the later months of 2021 as a secret beta. Perhaps just a thought:
So when it comes to each engine having different characteristics I believe your right. I know I’m talking about last years but may help. And these are just my opinions but t Ferrari power curve seemed to deliver most power through mid range and dropping off towards top end
Mercedes abit more balanced giving decent midrange and decent top end.
Whereas Renault (I hardly used so limited knowledge) and definitely Honda power curve would lean towards top end speed
And what convinces me ad I’m an old man with stiff on/off fingers that uses controller. So as I don’t cry in agony after an hours play time I use auto gears. Auto gears makes it hard to manage your revs and impossible to hold a gear as auto will decide when to change.So because off this I found Honda not only best top end but as it was easier to manage accelerating out off slow corners as having lower midrange power ment Less wheel slip. Compared to Mercedes and Ferrari extra power would be wasted
and so finely this to me anyway makes complete sense on how current engine performance is. All engines are currently putting to much power during midrange accelerating. Thus lots off power isn’t making it onto track. And being wasted Why low on diff is currently all the rage. And why the upcoming torque update will smooth all this out
and finally this is why ai are faster on straights. They accelerate using optimum amounts off throttle at all times. And those who can keep up with them just have higher amounts off finesse in fingers or toes😁
Ive used no facts this is all just from what I’ve seen read and experienced
- ScarDuck143 years agoLegend
@Man0maN13000 The reason is to much power (not your fault) is going to the rear wheels which is forcing the TC to drastically reduce engine power which means the car will bog down as though it’s in a foot off thick sticky mud. There is a update coming soon but how soon I don’t know that will even out the power curve reducing the amount off power out off slow corners which will Inturn stop TC from having to take the drastic action you are currently experiencing and actually help you accelerate faster