Product: F1 22Platform:Steam-PCSummarize your bug The effect of front wing damage is too small. I do not know if this is by design or not, but even if it is, I'm pretty sure it should be increased. There is no way we should be able to drive through Ascari at Monza at almost normal speed with a completely broken front wing. We also saw in Silverstone (with Perez) that less wing damage also affects speed. I selected Multiplayer for the area, but it happens in every mode you can get damage in.Which area is the bug/glitch in? MultiplayerHow often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Break the front wing completely and do a lap at Monza. What happens when the bug occurs? A complete loss of the front wing does not affect you nearly as much as it should (in fact, it almost does nothing) What do you expect to see? More realistic consequences of damage, otherwise people can crash into you in multiplayer, and not pay a price for damageAgain, don't know if it is by design, but still feel it's too little.

I watched a YouTubers My Team race and he was beaten by Perez whose front wing was missing, So yes, sadly it doesn’t affect performance.

Do you seriously want a second F1 2021 again where MINISCULE DAMAGE feels like NO FRONT WING AT ALL?Also, I think the main reason to why it doesn't affect performance this much is because of the ground effect. The underbody gives way more downforce compared to the last few years, and I think they did a great job.By the way, front wing damage does affect your performance, but like I said, not as much as the previous years, and I like it the way it is. This makes Monaco a lot more bearable compared to last year, because you can scratch your wing and still drive normally, which was not the case in F1 2021.

I just did a race where I got damage to other side of my front wing (yellow, so light), didn't feel any difference to handling. Later in the race, I got the other side damaged as well and still didn't feel any clear difference. On second last lap, tried to pass Hamilton and got my hole front wing shattered... again no difference, at least to worse, I did however feel faster out of corners to straights (checked replay and definitely didn't get any slower). Yeah, this year more minor front wing damage doesn't seem to matter that much in real life, but I'm pretty sure more major damage does, like losing your whole wing.

@ajobling1983 wrote:We have seen in F1 this year drivers racing with no end plate on the front wing. I’m happy with the design this year compared to last. Where if you had no end plate you couldn’t turn the car.There's a HUGE difference between a bit if end plate damage and having no front wing at all.

Curious to see what @RollsJoyce1102's reply is as to which version of the game they're referring to, but for me a couple of observations from last night:In a practice session for Azerbaijan, I locked up into turn #3 and clipped the barrier as I went into the run off, breaking off the entire front wing (damage display panel went fully red). At this point the car was highly undrivable, requiring me to brake a lot earlier than normal in order to nurse the car back to the pits. Without any lap times to compare to, it's really hard to say for sure (especially in practice where there isn't as much grip), but this felt like it lined up a lot more with F1 2021 than it did previously.Later, in the race session, now in intermediate conditions, I had been matching the pace of the AI cars around me for multiple laps. Then I clipped a wall and the right-hand side of the front wing turned yellow/orange (the more problematic side with this being an anti-clockwise circuit). I immediately started losing 1.0-2.0 seconds per lap to the cars around me (depending how well I managed to get the car turned in during those tricky conditions), which felt appropriate in the circumstances. The weather was predicted to switch to dry running in the next 5-10 minutes, and if it weren't for that, I would have certainly been pushed into a two-stop to get the damage repaired ASAP. By the time a safety car occurred 5-ish laps later, I was over 10 seconds behind. To me this all felt correctly balanced.So for me, it's looking good right now, but I'd really want to see how things play out for a while before committing to that opinion.

Front wing damage does almost nothing to affect performance

12 Replies

kismet8051
4 years ago
I watched a YouTubers My Team race and he was beaten by Perez whose front wing was missing, So yes, sadly it doesn’t affect performance.
LuckyNico92
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
Do you seriously want a second F1 2021 again where MINISCULE DAMAGE feels like NO FRONT WING AT ALL?
Also, I think the main reason to why it doesn't affect performance this much is because of the ground effect. The underbody gives way more downforce compared to the last few years, and I think they did a great job.
By the way, front wing damage does affect your performance, but like I said, not as much as the previous years, and I like it the way it is. This makes Monaco a lot more bearable compared to last year, because you can scratch your wing and still drive normally, which was not the case in F1 2021.
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
4 years ago
@LuckyNico92 wrote:
Do you seriously want a second F1 2021 again where MINISCULE DAMAGE feels like NO FRONT WING AT ALL?
Also, I think the main reason to why it doesn't affect performance this much is because of the ground effect. The underbody gives way more downforce compared to the last few years, and I think they did a great job.
By the way, front wing damage does affect your performance, but like I said, not as much as the previous years, and I like it the way it is. This makes Monaco a lot more bearable compared to last year, because you can scratch your wing and still drive normally, which was not the case in F1 2021.
Would you expect a real F1 driver to keep racing as if nothing had happened if he lost his front wing?
ajobling1983
Rising Ace
4 years ago
We have seen in F1 this year drivers racing with no end plate on the front wing. I’m happy with the design this year compared to last. Where if you had no end plate you couldn’t turn the car.
Ileleee
4 years ago
I just did a race where I got damage to other side of my front wing (yellow, so light), didn't feel any difference to handling. Later in the race, I got the other side damaged as well and still didn't feel any clear difference. On second last lap, tried to pass Hamilton and got my hole front wing shattered... again no difference, at least to worse, I did however feel faster out of corners to straights (checked replay and definitely didn't get any slower).

Yeah, this year more minor front wing damage doesn't seem to matter that much in real life, but I'm pretty sure more major damage does, like losing your whole wing.
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
4 years ago
@ajobling1983 wrote:
We have seen in F1 this year drivers racing with no end plate on the front wing. I’m happy with the design this year compared to last. Where if you had no end plate you couldn’t turn the car.
There's a HUGE difference between a bit if end plate damage and having no front wing at all.
Tortugita197
4 years ago
Same issue here, and I am surprised that only a few people complain about this becase for me this is a huge bug and it ruins the game. If people are bothered that car damage is affecting handling, then they can simply switch off damage, but if I put car damage on realistic, I expext it to be realistic.
Tribladez
4 years ago
I agree with the sentiment of this thread, but here's how I would personally like to see the wing damage balanced:
If you completely lose your front wing (it has changed to a red colour in the damage panel), you should not be able to race well at all, should lose multiple seconds per lap (similar to if you were on a wet tire compound in the dry) and have no option but to pit in most circumstances.
If your front wing takes significant damage (either the left or the right side has turned dark orange, you should lose significant lap time (~1.0-2.0 seconds per lap), but the car should still be drivable for the most part.
However, if you take minor amounts of damage (lost a single endplate, or have light green/yellow damage) this should have very little impact on the car (no more than ~0.25-0.5 seconds per lap at MOST). It should not make sense to pit for a new wing to fix this sort of damage unless you are in / close to a pit window anyway. Obviously if you accumulate multiple hits of this magnitude, I would expect it to turn into a big problem (front wing turns orange).
I agree that wing damage doesn't always feel significant enough right now in F1 22 when taking large amounts of damage, but I certainly prefer this model to the F1 2021 model, which I hated, where you were severely punished if you took even a scratch of damage. Especially with the aggressive AI model in F1 22. That sort of damage model here would ruin the game.
RollsJoyce1102
3 years ago
No it doesn't...deep dark red frontwing damage, but was able to finish the Miami and Austria track without problems and/or losing laptime. It's not realistic at all...
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
3 years ago
@RollsJoyce1102 wrote:
No it doesn't...deep dark red frontwing damage, but was able to finish the Miami and Austria track without problems and/or losing laptime. It's not realistic at all...
On 1.07 or an earlier version? The patch notes said this had been addressed...