Game: F1 2022 Platform: Steam I have observed with other players that there could be an error in the grip calibration for different players and platforms. It has been empirically verified that using the same setup, the same car under equal conditions, different grips are obtained in the car. These differences can be up to 4 seconds per lap. How is it possible? What does it depend on for one player to experience more adherence than another under equal conditions? the platform?, the hardware? internet speed? This issue is quite serious as these differences in grip indicate that the parameters used in the car are not properly calibrated. Is there any explanation to this problem in F1 2022 game?

Could you provide some links to evidence to support what you are claiming? Off the top of my head my first thoughts are to wonder about tyre temperature differences, tyre model selected, or the sad possibility of some players using cheats.

But you're not driving the same?You're inducing understeer by increasing the steering lock while being hard on the brakes. By "turning the wheel more", you're actually making it worse.Number 1 countermeasure against understeer on most cases is actually to open up the steering wheel.You understeer because you're demanding too much of the front tyres (braking+steering). You need to ask less of them so that they can bite up again and rotate the car properly.So ease off the brakes, shift the BB backwards, and open the steering.And as we've said previously, the skill ceiling is very high in these games. Even more so on a game with not the best FFB on the market. You should not be comparing yourself against other drivers if you want to make it a point that the grip levels are different across different platforms.Edit: editing to make it clearer.Grip is like a budget for how much work tyres can do. When you exceed said budget on any given tyre, it will break traction on that axle.Exceed the grip your front tyres have and you'll understeer.Exceed the grip your rear tyres have and you'll oversteer.Basically, that's it.Steering is fun in how it works. There's this thing called slip angle, which is the difference between where your front wheels are pointing to, to where your car is actually going. There is always some degree of slip angle, even when you're way within your grip budget.When you understeer, that slip angles increases a lot. So much so that the front tyres get worse at their steering task. There's an optimal slip angle range your tyres need to be to be at their best.So if you exceed your front tyres grip and get into understeering, you need to ask less of them AND to close down that slip angle so that it gets back to full steering capability.Keeping so hard on the brakes will make it tougher for the front to bite again. Keeping it hard on the brakes AND increasing the slip angle by turning the steering wheel even more will just compound the mistake.

@rolfisicas Most likely it’s a issue with the platform that the car is slower on. Could be a number of things… hardware, software or even the controller you use.This is the first time I’ve come across this. If it was a problem with the game more people would have reported it. All three of us champions are fully aware of what issues there in the game and I’m sorry this isn’t one off them

@rolfisicas wrote:Hi, By empirically verified, I mean that a player with the same setup as me does 4 seconds faster. To rule out the player's driving quality, the platforms have been swapped, and the fast player ends up being 4 seconds slower on my platform and I am 4 seconds better on his platform. How can this be if we use the same set up both?As well as setups did you check that all game settings were identical? There's no way one platform is inherently 4 seconds per lap slower than another or it would be easily apparent in crossplay lobbies.

@rolfisicas Are you using the gear meta? They have more traction cause in this game it’s faster to stay in high gears. A 2nd gear corner for example. Is now a 4th gear corner. Gives better traction accelerating through and out off corners. All your tubers use the same method

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41 Replies

Ultrasonic_77
Hero
3 years ago
Could you provide some links to evidence to support what you are claiming?
Off the top of my head my first thoughts are to wonder about tyre temperature differences, tyre model selected, or the sad possibility of some players using cheats.
mariohomoh
Hero (Retired)
3 years ago
@rolfisicas I'm echoing Ultra on this one. Can't really comment on it as ( a) that is not the expected behavior and (b) we're clueless about what you mean by "empirically verified".
rolfisicas
3 years ago
Hi, By empirically verified, I mean that a player with the same setup as me does 4 seconds faster. To rule out the player's driving quality, the platforms have been swapped, and the fast player ends up being 4 seconds slower on my platform and I am 4 seconds better on his platform. How can this be if we use the same set up both?
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@rolfisicas Most likely it’s a issue with the platform that the car is slower on. Could be a number of things… hardware, software or even the controller you use.

This is the first time I’ve come across this. If it was a problem with the game more people would have reported it. All three of us champions are fully aware of what issues there in the game and I’m sorry this isn’t one off them
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
3 years ago
@rolfisicas wrote:
Hi, By empirically verified, I mean that a player with the same setup as me does 4 seconds faster. To rule out the player's driving quality, the platforms have been swapped, and the fast player ends up being 4 seconds slower on my platform and I am 4 seconds better on his platform. How can this be if we use the same set up both?
As well as setups did you check that all game settings were identical?
There's no way one platform is inherently 4 seconds per lap slower than another or it would be easily apparent in crossplay lobbies.
rolfisicas
3 years ago
Could it be due to the configuration of the fanatec steering wheel? or the hardware used as a computer with less features? For example, you see videos of some youtubers about a hotlap and you notice that they have a very high grip, the car seems to be between the rails. I know several players who using the same set up do not get that behavior of the car.
rolfisicas
3 years ago
May be is the used hardware or the plattform you use, i don't know. But I know several players with this problem and I don't know the reason of that. Thanks!
mariohomoh
Hero (Retired)
3 years ago
@rolfisicas A video with their lap times would be more useful here.
Take the whole F1 game community and ask them to drive two laps in a row, I'd be willing to wager the majority there wouldn't be able to score two laps in the same 2-3s ballpark 🙃

Without some proper testing or evidence, I don't see this discussion going anywhere. I'm not even thaaat old as some of our fellows here, but I've been around for some good years now and this is the first time I've ever seen this raised up.

So my best guess is there isn't really as much of a veritable parity as you seem to think. From player inputs to the weeds of settings (hardware and software both), small bits like camera FOV to sitting position if playing on a wheel can eat away a lot on what we would otherwise assume as being consistent with a previous go.

If you want to make it easier, set it to automatic transmission, turn on every assist available on the max level, choose a default camera configuration, and just try to drive on the racing line to the best of your ability.
If even so you're consistently getting the same overall difference in laptimes, then we can get on to investigating it further, isolation factors and variables and so on to check if indeed there are different grip levels across platforms

Otherwise I'd chalk it up to confirmation bias.
rolfisicas
3 years ago
Ok, i will try showing some exemples by youtube. As tyre model what do you mean? If I am usong soft or hard tyres?. The tyre temperature is not possible because i see the differences playing in time trial mode (the tyre temperature doesn't affect)
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@rolfisicas Are you using the gear meta? They have more traction cause in this game it’s faster to stay in high gears. A 2nd gear corner for example. Is now a 4th gear corner. Gives better traction accelerating through and out off corners. All your tubers use the same method