Re: f1 2022 crossplay between Steam and Origin on PC
What is your suggestion for now origin or steam version ?
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Let's be honest here for a second... We all bought the game on one platform. It's called PC... We just used different storefronts, so it shouldn't matter where the game was bought as we are all on the one and same platform. Crossplay is between platforms and not storefronts. We have every right to feel disappointed and angry, as there was no information about inability to play together on the same platform.
How can anyone think that it is acceptable to split your player base like that?
Who made that decision?
What is being done about this abysmal situation?
Any response from EA staff or do we have to just sit quiet and be happy that we can play the game (when it works)?
Of course Steam. Only people on Origin are either EA Play users (most of which aren't really serious F1 players) or cheapskates who bought keys through resellers (since steam keys are no longer distributed). Everyone else is play on Steam. And for those unaware, the Steam version has no Origin client, it's directly tied to Steam, which probably explains the Steam/Origin discrepancy in multiplayer (EA account is just to activate the game).
- @TheMalWareTM It shouldn't really matter now should it? It's the same platform just different storefronts. What is the point of You trying to belittle people that got the game through Origin/EA play Pro?
Steam and Origin aren't just "storefronts' where you buy games, there is also the whole network services aspect, including multiplayer. And take my comment however you like, "belittling" if you want, but it's certainly the truth.
@TheMalWareTM how come we don't see that being a problem in fifa or... I don't know, any other game in the world?
@TheMalWareTM wrote:Of course Steam. Only people on Origin are either EA Play users (most of which aren't really serious F1 players) or cheapskates who bought keys through resellers (since steam keys are no longer distributed). Everyone else is play on Steam. And for those unaware, the Steam version has no Origin client, it's directly tied to Steam, which probably explains the Steam/Origin discrepancy in multiplayer (EA account is just to activate the game).
See stteam description for this game:
"EA on-line activation and Origin client software installation and background use required."
- @TheMalWareTM You say "whole network services aspect, including multiplayer", but in case of Battlefront 2 it was possible? Case in point: https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Can-Origin-and-Steam-Crossplay/td-p/9207145 EA Dice Team claims "It's not crossplay since it's both on PC". It looks that it actually is very possible to do.
- @n0thappy "Any other game in the world" pointless comparison. As for FIFA, the Steam version runs the Origin client. Why doesn't F1 22 run the Origin client then? Probably because Codemasters have been working on F1 games long before the EA acquisition (they don't make a new game every year, they build upon the previous games), and it's harder than simply flipping a switch to port their framework on to Origin.
This is just hilarious seeing that EA dude saying its not crossplay since they're both PC, hah.
Oh my world, why can't we just have nice things :D
Those that played online in f1 games know they were far from perfect, even far from playable sometimes, but at least we had one problem in codies, now we've got two of them :D
- @deniskamir Maybe there is some background process, but there's certainly no Origin client. I have both FIFA and F1 on Steam, I know how they differ.
- @Aeghnor Battlefront 2 works through the Origin launcher on Steam and Epic Games, F1 22 doesn't. That guy is part of the community team addressing plebs, of course he's going to dumb it down to "it's both on PC", chances are he doesn't even know.
@TheMalWareTM the only pointless thing is defending this decision while:
a) EA did not communicate this being the limitation before the release. One might argue they did not communicate it at all, unless we count a forum reply as an official statement
b) this is diving the PC scene completely, since the origin price is way better and will surely lure those, especially from countries where the game costs a lot.
I'm tired of "it's not that easy" approach, we are talking about a triple A game of one of the most popular sports in the world. This ain't a damn life is strange saga or other indie title.
@TheMalWareTM wrote:
@deniskamirMaybe there is some background process, but there's certainly no Origin client. I have both FIFA and F1 on Steam, I know how they differ.I think if you open normal origin client you can see f1 22 icon with steam sign, but may be not, because this is special compatible little origin client for this game. But it runs in background like many new origin game.
Old origin game have game icon with steam and full origin client in background.- @n0thappy Certainly not defending, I'm explaining. Point is either do the research or get screwed, there's no point whining about companies omitting details about a product like this (feel free to do it out of principle, but it's futile). Those who bought cheap keys only have themselves to blame really (and if you were smart, you'd wait until release before activating your key). Regional pricing, understandable, but it's standard EA practice and they're not going to change it. Also if you actually did an ounce of research you'd know that crossplay is indeed coming, and the reason it was delayed was because the people working on it were located in Ukraine.
- @deniskamir Nah there is no Origin client whatsoever, the game is tied to Steam. As I said I do have FIFA 22, I can distinguish the two.
fifa 22 has same description like f1 22 and probably same client. But I have fifa on origin.
See stteam description for this game:
"EA on-line activation and Origin client software installation and background use required."
@TheMalWareTM wrote:
@deniskamirNah there is no Origin client whatsoever, the game is tied to Steam. As I said I do have FIFA 22, I can distinguish the two.- @deniskamir You're special aren't you, I tell you twice that F1 22 doesn't run through Origin nor does the Origin client run in background despite the steam description, you still refuse to understand. Go figure.
@TheMalWareTM wrote:
@deniskamirYou're special aren't you, I tell you twice that F1 22 doesn't run through Origin nor does the Origin client run in background despite the steam description, you still refuse to understand. Go figure.Execuse me, I understand you. I just compare descriptions of two games.
But can you see the origin procces in task manager durung launch steam f1 22 game if you don't run full origin client?
- @TheMalWareTM We shouldn't have to do research ourselves as it's on a company releasing certain product to communicate it's limitations. Stop defending anti-customer practices. Why are you insisting on blaming people for looking for a better deal in current financial climate? It's incredibly frugal to do so and no one deserves to be blamed for it.
As i stated before, PC is a platform so there shouldn't be even mention of crossplay. It was up to Codemasters/EA to code it properly instead of this calamity that we now have.
I wonder about a reaction to this situation, tomorrow, with release of standard edition of the game. - @Aeghnor Just explaining how things are, take it however you like. My point was, do the research or don't come whining if you get screwed. Of course these companies should clearly communicate something as basic as a crossplay delay between PC users, but they won't because they don't have to, there are no repercussions so why bother (forum whiners certainly are no threat). The sooner you start thinking how a company operates, how a product works, the sooner you'll make better choices and judgements for yourself. As for the cost of the game, it's up to you to organise your budget, don't buy the game if you can't afford it, or as I said do the research beforehand.
There are repercussions for games developers treating customers badly, particularly for annual release titles like the F1 games, in that it will negatively affect future pre-orders and sales. Suggesting otherwise is both wrong and monumentally defeatist/counter-productive.
If a publisher elects to go against the grain of the videogame industry and treat a PC game acquired through different storefronts as needing the crossplay feature to be playable together online then yeah, that needs to be clearly communicated to the consumers.
Crossplay has always being defined as players of different hardware being able to play together.
No one's denying there needing work to make players able to share features when they can get their licenses from different vendors with different validation systems and all, but it's a stretch to call it "crossplay" when these are mainly glorified storefronts.
It's the same software running on equivalent hardware on the same OS.
Again, if you are going to break those common sense assumptions, you need to communicate it loud and clear.
- @Ultrasonic_77 The customer base is too big to notice any visible repercussions whatsoever for a mainstream game like this, especially for an annual release title like F1 in this case where the crossplay feature will be present at launch next year anyway. Regional pricing isn't an issue either, other EA Sports titles clearly prove that. People who go on forums to whine are in the minority, like it or not.
- @mariohomoh They'll fully integrate the F1 games in Origin as soon as they can, probably even from F1 23 onwards, and the Steam version will work like FIFA does, via the Origin client, so this is a non issue. F1 22 probably started development with only Steam in mind, since the development cycle for F1 games is around 2 years and the EA acquisition is recent. The only reason they use the term crossplay is because full Steam/Origin/Playstation/Xbox crossplay is expected to come at the same time. If war hadn't broken out in Ukraine, the team assigned to developing crossplay would've finished it in time and we wouldn't even be talking about this. So no, EA isn't going "against the grain of the videogame industry".
@TheMalWareTMReferring to the inability of a PC game bought on Origin to share features with the very same PC game bought on Steam as being an issue that needs crossplay feature to be fixed is going against the grain.
Those in the know are full aware of the delay on crossplay, it was not only on Lee Mather interviews but also reported all over the news. But there's some fancy acrobatics going on to a) expect people to know that this would split the PC community like this (because it shouldn't!) and b) to clear EA for their absolute inability to communicate that to the consumers.
They're using the term "crossplay" wrongly as PC and PC are the same hardware, full stop. And doing that as an excuse for their messing up.Edit: Quick quiz. What is better for EA's pockets: be transparent about Origin and the Steam consumers not being able to play together on release before the preorder commenced, or be radio silent about the issue until the players force it to go public?
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