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Re: f1 2022 crossplay between Steam and Origin on PC

@n0thappy "Any other game in the world" pointless comparison. As for FIFA, the Steam version runs the Origin client. Why doesn't F1 22 run the Origin client then? Probably because Codemasters have been working on F1 games long before the EA acquisition (they don't make a new game every year, they build upon the previous games), and it's harder than simply flipping a switch to port their framework on to Origin.

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  • n0thappy's avatar
    n0thappy
    4 years ago

    @TheMalWareTM the only pointless thing is defending this decision while:

    a) EA did not communicate this being the limitation before the release. One might argue they did not communicate it at all, unless we count a forum reply as an official statement

    b) this is diving the PC scene completely, since the origin price is way better and will surely lure those, especially from countries where the game costs a lot. 

    I'm tired of "it's not that easy" approach, we are talking about a triple A game of one of the most popular sports in the world. This ain't a damn life is strange saga or other indie title. 

  • @n0thappy Certainly not defending, I'm explaining. Point is either do the research or get screwed, there's no point whining about companies omitting details about a product like this (feel free to do it out of principle, but it's futile). Those who bought cheap keys only have themselves to blame really (and if you were smart, you'd wait until release before activating your key). Regional pricing, understandable, but it's standard EA practice and they're not going to change it. Also if you actually did an ounce of research you'd know that crossplay is indeed coming, and the reason it was delayed was because the people working on it were located in Ukraine.
  • Aeghnor's avatar
    Aeghnor
    New Scout
    4 years ago
    @TheMalWareTM We shouldn't have to do research ourselves as it's on a company releasing certain product to communicate it's limitations. Stop defending anti-customer practices. Why are you insisting on blaming people for looking for a better deal in current financial climate? It's incredibly frugal to do so and no one deserves to be blamed for it.
    As i stated before, PC is a platform so there shouldn't be even mention of crossplay. It was up to Codemasters/EA to code it properly instead of this calamity that we now have.
    I wonder about a reaction to this situation, tomorrow, with release of standard edition of the game.
  • @Aeghnor Just explaining how things are, take it however you like. My point was, do the research or don't come whining if you get screwed. Of course these companies should clearly communicate something as basic as a crossplay delay between PC users, but they won't because they don't have to, there are no repercussions so why bother (forum whiners certainly are no threat). The sooner you start thinking how a company operates, how a product works, the sooner you'll make better choices and judgements for yourself. As for the cost of the game, it's up to you to organise your budget, don't buy the game if you can't afford it, or as I said do the research beforehand.
  • Ultrasonic_77's avatar
    Ultrasonic_77
    Hero
    4 years ago

    There are repercussions for games developers treating customers badly, particularly for annual release titles like the F1 games, in that it will negatively affect future pre-orders and sales. Suggesting otherwise is both wrong and monumentally defeatist/counter-productive.

  • mariohomoh's avatar
    mariohomoh
    Hero (Retired)
    4 years ago

    If a publisher elects to go against the grain of the videogame industry and treat a PC game acquired through different storefronts as needing the crossplay feature to be playable together online then yeah, that needs to be clearly communicated to the consumers.

    Crossplay has always being defined as players of different hardware being able to play together.

    No one's denying there needing work to make players able to share features when they can get their licenses from different vendors with different validation systems and all, but it's a stretch to call it "crossplay" when these are mainly glorified storefronts.

    It's the same software running on equivalent hardware on the same OS.

    Again, if you are going to break those common sense assumptions, you need to communicate it loud and clear.

  • TheMalWareTM's avatar
    TheMalWareTM
    4 years ago
    @Ultrasonic_77 The customer base is too big to notice any visible repercussions whatsoever for a mainstream game like this, especially for an annual release title like F1 in this case where the crossplay feature will be present at launch next year anyway. Regional pricing isn't an issue either, other EA Sports titles clearly prove that. People who go on forums to whine are in the minority, like it or not.
  • @mariohomoh They'll fully integrate the F1 games in Origin as soon as they can, probably even from F1 23 onwards, and the Steam version will work like FIFA does, via the Origin client, so this is a non issue. F1 22 probably started development with only Steam in mind, since the development cycle for F1 games is around 2 years and the EA acquisition is recent. The only reason they use the term crossplay is because full Steam/Origin/Playstation/Xbox crossplay is expected to come at the same time. If war hadn't broken out in Ukraine, the team assigned to developing crossplay would've finished it in time and we wouldn't even be talking about this. So no, EA isn't going "against the grain of the videogame industry".
  • mariohomoh's avatar
    mariohomoh
    Hero (Retired)
    4 years ago

    @TheMalWareTMReferring to the inability of a PC game bought on Origin to share features with the very same PC game bought on Steam as being an issue that needs crossplay feature to be fixed is going against the grain.

    Those in the know are full aware of the delay on crossplay, it was not only on Lee Mather interviews but also reported all over the news. But there's some fancy acrobatics going on to a) expect people to know that this would split the PC community like this (because it shouldn't!) and b) to clear EA for their absolute inability to communicate that to the consumers.

    They're using the term "crossplay" wrongly as PC and PC are the same hardware, full stop. And doing that as an excuse for their messing up.

    Edit: Quick quiz. What is better for EA's pockets: be transparent about Origin and the Steam consumers not being able to play together on release before the preorder commenced, or be radio silent about the issue until the players force it to go public?

  • Ultrasonic_77's avatar
    Ultrasonic_77
    Hero
    4 years ago

    @TheMalWareTM wrote:
    @Ultrasonic_77The customer base is too big to notice any visible repercussions whatsoever for a mainstream game like this, especially for an annual release title like F1 in this case where the crossplay feature will be present at launch next year anyway. Regional pricing isn't an issue either, other EA Sports titles clearly prove that. People who go on forums to whine are in the minority, like it or not.

    Do you WANT to be treated badly by games developers? Posts like yours will only encourage this, so even if you truly believe what you say, it's still a bad idea to say so.

    I don't agree with you though. The microtransaction price changes in GT7 are a very recent example of how player response can influence what happens in a game.

    Also, people legitimately complaining about what has happened are not 'whining'.

  • Jaspervdw95's avatar
    Jaspervdw95
    4 years ago

    Good news everyone! After hours and hours of failed support via chat, I managed to get phone support. The person on the phone told me this issue is known. And that it will be fixed within A FEW DAYS!

  • Aeghnor's avatar
    Aeghnor
    New Scout
    4 years ago
    @Jaspervdw95 I will have to see it to believe it, in this case, unfortunately.
    Call me a cynic but i don't believe that random support person, on the phone, will know anything about it. Even EA/Codemasters staff don't know what is cross-play and what isn't.
  • MisterJohnny420's avatar
    MisterJohnny420
    4 years ago

    @TheMalWareTM By the way, whats going on with your fake accounts liking your posts? Seems quite inappropiate to me, especially since you're trying to defend EAs behaviour.

  • Ultrasonic_77's avatar
    Ultrasonic_77
    Hero
    4 years ago

    Really hope it's true but I'm sceptical too. If they're confident this is going to be resolved quickly it would surely have made sense for EA/Codemasters to put out a statement to this effect? 

  • Ultrasonic_77's avatar
    Ultrasonic_77
    Hero
    4 years ago

    @MisterJohnny420 wrote:

    @TheMalWareTM By the way, whats going on with your fake accounts liking your posts? Seems quite inappropiate to me, especially since you're trying to defend EAs behaviour.


    LOL! Wow that's desperate!

  • mariohomoh's avatar
    mariohomoh
    Hero (Retired)
    4 years ago
    @MisterJohnny420 humongous oof if true! What made you think that? The accounts were created one immediately after the other?

    I'll check it on desktop if it happens to still be on my mind. This forum on mobile is a PITA.

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