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Re: Report system needed

@SomaticCoast375 I agree with the scale of punishments but I think that’s too lenient. I think we should be able to send clips to be reviewed but maybe they can a ban depending on the level of the crash. Also if it blatant it should be a permaban because that’s the only way they will ever learn

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  • SomaticCoast375's avatar
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    4 years ago

    @Cpayne32 wrote:
    @SomaticCoast375I agree with the scale of punishments but I think that’s too lenient. I think we should be able to send clips to be reviewed but maybe they can a ban depending on the level of the crash. Also if it blatant it should be a permaban because that’s the only way they will ever learn

    True they should be more stricter

  • Trekari's avatar
    Trekari
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    4 years ago

    F1 online play has been trash for years, but this response just doesn't cut it.

    Nobody should have to go to a website out of the game and fill out forms to deal with the rampant deliberate ramming and unsporting conduct present in F1 open lobbies. If the game can generally get penalties right in offline play, there isn't a good reason that such dirty drivers can't be disqualified and removed from online sessions automatically.

    I get the feeling that you don't have any personal knowledge of how bad it really is. Go spend some time in the subreddit and observe the absolute deluge of posts showing people deliberately ramming, driving backwards, torpedoing, brake-checking, etc.

  • SomaticCoast375's avatar
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    4 years ago

    @Trekari wrote:

    F1 online play has been trash for years, but this response just doesn't cut it.

    Nobody should have to go to a website out of the game and fill out forms to deal with the rampant deliberate ramming and unsporting conduct present in F1 open lobbies. If the game can generally get penalties right in offline play, there isn't a good reason that such dirty drivers can't be disqualified and removed from online sessions automatically.

    I get the feeling that you don't have any personal knowledge of how bad it really is. Go spend some time in the subreddit and observe the absolute deluge of posts showing people deliberately ramming, driving backwards, torpedoing, brake-checking, etc.


    What you on about? I made the post because I have experienced the dirty drivers and seen other people’s clips

  • Trekari's avatar
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    4 years ago

    @Cpayne32 

    @SomaticCoast375 

    Did neither of you bother to actually read what I wrote? The context clues were obvious as to what I was referring to.

    Go back and read what I wrote again and then facepalm yourselves for getting the comprehension completely and utterly wrong.

    "Nobody should have to go to a website out of the game and fill out forms to deal with the rampant deliberate ramming and unsporting conduct present in F1 open lobbies."

    Who said to use a website to report dirty drivers? The EA rep. What does "...rampant, deliberate ramming...present in F1 open lobbies mean?" What did I say about going to reddit and observing the multitude of posts showing dirty drivers?

    You two need to actually read what someone writes next time. My god. There's no excuse for getting my point of view completely backwards.

  • Cpayne32's avatar
    Cpayne32
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    4 years ago

    @Trekari You have to report bugs on a form so why is reporting a bug in the game any different to reporting a dirty driver on a online form

  • Trekari's avatar
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    4 years ago

    1) It wasn't banter. Neither of you bothered to read my comment correctly, and your responses leave no room for doubting that.

    2) Because the best way to deal with toxic behavior in-game is to provide a feature which can quickly and easily be accessed IN GAME to report them.

    You'd know this if you ever bothered to even look at the requested information on their 'web report' nonsense. It shouldn't take more than 5-10 seconds and 5-6 button presses to report someone in-game. Making it tedious and external means precisely ONE thing:

    People won't report dirty drivers nearly as often as they are actually encountered.

  • SteveJackson's avatar
    SteveJackson
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    4 years ago

    Top and bottom of it is, collision detection as far as penalties go is pretty abysmal.

    Anyone hitting a car in the rear should be at fault, unless the car in front has deliberately slowed.

    I would suggest any driver causing damage should be forced to play in an unranked short session with collisions off for a minimum of four lobbies. The access to ranked or lobbies with damage on would be restricted, therefore diminishing the appeal of ramming.


  • @Trekari wrote:

    F1 online play has been trash for years, but this response just doesn't cut it.

    Nobody should have to go to a website out of the game and fill out forms to deal with the rampant deliberate ramming and unsporting conduct present in F1 open lobbies. If the game can generally get penalties right in offline play, there isn't a good reason that such dirty drivers can't be disqualified and removed from online sessions automatically.

    I get the feeling that you don't have any personal knowledge of how bad it really is. Go spend some time in the subreddit and observe the absolute deluge of posts showing people deliberately ramming, driving backwards, torpedoing, brake-checking, etc.


    I don't think you understand the problem here. The game can't possibly know who caused the incident, it's almost impossible to determine with gamecode, Just look at how it works with penalties ingame today, how often haven't you gotten a penalty when someone else was the cause?

    The only decent way to deal with this is like suggested, send in clips of the incident and get a judgement from that. It works like this in iRacing and it works fairly well. Having a report tool like that ingame will most certainly mean that it will be abused. It's a good thing that you need to make the effort to make a proper report, those malicious reports won't be made that way.

  • ajobling1983's avatar
    ajobling1983
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    4 years ago

    I totally understand the penalty system doesn’t work too well and something needs to be done to improve it.

    however the F1 series is not a sim like iRacing. I beleive the target audience for EA/ codies is getting younger. Most people play with controller and dont take things seriously. I cant see them starting to perm ban people as they want them to keep buying the game each year.

    whilst frustrating, i’ve learned to take it on the chin when people take you out in unranked lobbies. I would play more in ranked 25% distance, but they always seem to be empty.

  • SteveJackson's avatar
    SteveJackson
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    4 years ago

    @Liq0urice wrote:

    @Trekari wrote:

    F1 online play has been trash for years, but this response just doesn't cut it.

    Nobody should have to go to a website out of the game and fill out forms to deal with the rampant deliberate ramming and unsporting conduct present in F1 open lobbies. If the game can generally get penalties right in offline play, there isn't a good reason that such dirty drivers can't be disqualified and removed from online sessions automatically.

    I get the feeling that you don't have any personal knowledge of how bad it really is. Go spend some time in the subreddit and observe the absolute deluge of posts showing people deliberately ramming, driving backwards, torpedoing, brake-checking, etc.


    I don't think you understand the problem here. The game can't possibly know who caused the incident, it's almost impossible to determine with gamecode, Just look at how it works with penalties ingame today, how often haven't you gotten a penalty when someone else was the cause?

    The only decent way to deal with this is like suggested, send in clips of the incident and get a judgement from that. It works like this in iRacing and it works fairly well. Having a report tool like that ingame will most certainly mean that it will be abused. It's a good thing that you need to make the effort to make a proper report, those malicious reports won't be made that way.


    I think it's perfectly possible for someone to make a report about someone else just to be malicious.

    You could upload a clip from anywhere and say it was 'X' username, just play with the names off in your game and edit the footage to show any name in the totem.

  • Liq0urice's avatar
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    4 years ago

    @SteveJackson wrote:

    I think it's perfectly possible for someone to make a report about someone else just to be malicious.

    You could upload a clip from anywhere and say it was 'X' username, just play with the names off in your game and edit the footage to show any name in the totem.


    That's always possible but it takes a lot more effort so many of the malicious and fake reports will go away compared to if it's done ingame immediately. It's a lot of work to do what you suggest so you really have to have an evil eye on someone to do something like this. This can be prevented if the sessions are saved and you have to submit a session ID during the report process, just like in iracing. It will be easy to check if it's faked or not.

  • ajobling1983's avatar
    ajobling1983
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    4 years ago

    @Liq0urice wrote:

    @SteveJackson wrote:

    I think it's perfectly possible for someone to make a report about someone else just to be malicious.

    You could upload a clip from anywhere and say it was 'X' username, just play with the names off in your game and edit the footage to show any name in the totem.


    That's always possible but it takes a lot more effort so many of the malicious and fake reports will go away compared to if it's done ingame immediately. It's a lot of work to do what you suggest so you really have to have an evil eye on someone to do something like this. This can be prevented if the sessions are saved and you have to submit a session ID during the report process, just like in iracing. It will be easy to check if it's faked or not.


    This isnt going to happen. Do you think EA care if somebody takes you out? They are not going to start banning people for this. After all the F1 series is not a sim.

  • SomaticCoast375's avatar
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    4 years ago

    @EA_BarryI tried to do them steps but when you go the f1 2021 bit, for topic there’s no ‘report concerns or harassment’ like there is for other games

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