Hi all, I need some help with understanding and analysing telemetry. I’ve recently got and set-up a telemetry app to mainly help me look at tyre surface and carcass temps so I can set pressures to avoid overheating. I am now wondering what else I should look out for in the various data points to help increase performance. I know I could look at any data point and focus on extremes to further analyse, I also appreciate this is a pretty nebulous subject, and setup can have impacts on multiple data points - but are there any that are more “clear-cut” that directly point to specific setup points that I could start my “telemetry journey” with? I appreciate any and all pointers and assistance 🖖🏽 CC: @mariohomoh, I know this is something you’ve talked about before - any thoughts?

I personally don't use telemetry so much, even on other simulators like rFactor, iRacing or ACC.The reason is because, many times, you can do a good setup using telemetry, but rarely will it show any possible glitch in the setup options.Telemetry and the good use of telemetry will help you setup how theoretically the car is supposed to be setup, or it can help you understand if you have understeer or oversteer, mechanical or aerodynamically, but more often than not, it will not make you as fast as esport players for example.At high level of esports competition, it is important to find the "glitch" or the way of setting up a car that "exploits" the physics model of the relative simulator in use.In F1 game especially, there aren't enough settings to really justify the use of a telemetry software for the purpose of setting up or refine a setup of the car. I would rather use the telemetry to find out where I am making driving mistakes, and try to find how others interpret the track compared to myself.

@DavidGG53Funny you should say that.. Was just watching a YouTube video about buying setups for ACC(not that I’ve got it). The guy didn’t show the setup that he bought but just said it’s not a setup he would ever think off using and as you say it’s a setup they use the glitch.I’ve always said just set the car up to what feels good and go with it.

@Monzstar83 ooooooooh boy! This just got me all giddy!Just post a screenshot of your interface so that I can see what sort of data you can visualize - and their formats. Or just tell me the app you're using, but that will have me google searching for images of its interface anyway 🙃Do you have a routine or protocol already for creating setups? I mean your routine: what you set up first, what you look for on your first stint, etc.Method is just as important as data here. No use adjusting differentials before nailing your wings.It may take me a few hours to get back to your properly, busy day in the office today. But you've got me hooked already 💕

@BadMayh3mDude only Pathetic 110 elitist Git Guders who have to shoehorn they are amazing into every post care. And we don’t care about them. 😁I couldn’t even tell you any of my lap times despite tens of thousands of laps.

@Monzstar83My head hurts.I only joke I don’t mock. As I struggle more than most with racing games compared to most sim racers. Because I’m used to my backside telling me what’s going on with a car. Most cars you get feedback through steering wheel. But most road cars are very vague. Compared to sim wheel. I’m not a racing driver: But the most similar thing irl and sim for me is look as far as you can up road/track.,So unless you have a state of the art sim that shakes your bum. But even then it won’t truly translate the g-forces so I imagine a telemetry tool can help better understand what’s going on with your car.glad your better dude. Covid is t so bad now. Had it. Just before Christmas. Worst thing was losing sense of taste and smell over Christmas so couldn’t taste my sister’s awesome dinner she made😡 Whereas during lockdown I lost my mum to it 😡😔

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ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@dancrodrigues I wouldn’t know what you mean 😂😂.
Monzstar83
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@dancrodrigues wrote:

My criterion is: is it fun? From what I've read from your post you're having a real fun with it so ok, go full throttle for it!
Myself I have a problem when I fall into certain rabbit holes in which I start to gather data and create unnecessary procedures and the fun is lost. So it's a balance I always try to do to avoid this - sometimes my wife comes to me and say: remember it's a game, it's supposed to be light and fun. She's 100% right.
For instance, right now I'm doing a "real career" playing one season from each F1 game I have (starting 2019). At the moment I'm stuck 'cause I got bored after starting this thrice, and playing 100% race in Australia 3 times after an infinite loop of unncessary refinements. So it happened again, gonna get some weeks playing other thing to clean my mind haha
@dancrodrigues I know exactly what you mean - I’m similar to you. It’s initially a good learning experience and fun. Then you understand it a bit more and then in trying to maximise “the edge” it’s less so, bordering on obsession.
Same thing happened when I started tracking all my sessions and data to try and figure out what the game is doing with my suspicions of it cheating when “out of position” (I forgot to send you my sheet btw - will do that when back towards the end of the week if you still want it).

Added into this is my sneaking suspicion now that the game randomly makes things happens regarding handling and grip, which then nullifies to some extent any improvements you could make through understanding the data and modifying setup…
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@Monzstar83 It’s nice to know it’s not just me anymore. Once I was alone.
dancrodrigues
3 years ago
@Monzstar83I would never - ever - say no to a sheet hahaha

You see, this "fun" quite often get lost. I bought F1 22 some weeks after its launch and by the time there was that issue where the AI got a better exit out of the turns. So I take the time to learn the game with all assists off. And was painful. But I'm stubborn AF and finally managed to learn but man, that wasn't fun. I was paying much more attention on not making a mistake rather than just relaxing after a long day at office.

Long story short, today I'm zero ashamed of turning on any assist I want as long as I'm confortable playing.

As for the Suspicious Thread, you and our dearest Duck did a great job. haha
Blackbird90
3 years ago
@dancrodrigues wrote:
@Monzstar83I would never - ever - say no to a sheet hahaha

You see, this "fun" quite often get lost. I bought F1 22 some weeks after its launch and by the time there was that issue where the AI got a better exit out of the turns. So I take the time to learn the game with all assists off. And was painful. But I'm stubborn AF and finally managed to learn but man, that wasn't fun. I was paying much more attention on not making a mistake rather than just relaxing after a long day at office.

Long story short, today I'm zero ashamed of turning on any assist I want as long as I'm confortable playing.

As for the Suspicious Thread, you and our dearest Duck did a great job. haha
No shame for using any assist. Once I was a assist playa too)
I tend to believe that no assist racing is at its best when you fighting with people who also don’t use it, because everyone would make mistakes here and there in a race.
dwin20
Rising Hotshot
3 years ago
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dwin20
Rising Hotshot
3 years ago
@Nuvolarix wrote:
@Monzstar83 I think telemetry is very useful (especially RaceNet thanks to the "cars" comparison in the track) to compare the lines, braking points and how to use throttle. This is the most you can get out of it IMHO.
Much less about setup, I mean, if you go late on throttle or you struggle to go on it earlier for example, you may need rear downforce, you may get it from telemetry but only if you compare 2 laps of yours. If you compare with another guy, probably it's a different skill level, so you have not much to learn about setup.
I use it more to understand how to best interpret the track. Despite this I always save the telemetry also offline (PXG Telemetry) 🙂
The last version I had of this was 3.0 for F1 21. Has there been an update? This was really good!!
Nuvolarix
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@dwin20sadly no more updates but continued to use it flawlessly with F1 22 setting the "F1 2021 UDP" in game

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