Breaking the Habit - A Man United rebuild
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Dear board members, @Danimal5981 @CO88LER5 @thurlow885 @Stlducks4 and anyone else wanting to weigh in. We have an offer on the table for Christian Eriksen, and we've decided to sell.
Real Sociedad offers a promising winger, whom we hadn't scouted or even considered signing at any point so far. And we did sign another winger of Basque origin this summer, with Ćlex Berenguer arriving from Sociedad rivals Athletic Club. Without much success, I might add. A hard working backup, but nothing more than that with only 1 goal to his name. And 0 assists.
More info on the player here: Barrenetxea FC 24 Jan 17, 2024 SoFIFA
Mƶnchengladbach offers a clean Ā£22m fee, so this offer is probably the preferable from a financial perspective. But the board in general seems adamant that we won't be spending any of that money on a new player anyway, having already signed Manu KonĆ© for the central midfield.
So what say you? Which offer should we agree to?
I'd be quite tempted to take the cash/player deal. It's not often the AI actually send through a decent ISH player I find certainly not one I'd usually consider, but looking at stats and potential this one definitely has promise. Both options are a good for United imo, but would take chance on player and even if doesn't work out long term I'd expect a profit return within few seasons.
Thanks, @CO88LER5 and @thurlow885.
I agree, often the players suggested in swap deals are someone I would never even concider. And this time he actually looks quite promising.
I think I'll go with the swap then. It's also fun to end up with other players than I originally planned to target.
I'd think of it as a bit like when United bought Cantona from Leeds. That started as an enquiry from Leeds for a United player(can't remember who). Fergue said "no" but asked about Cantona, and the deal was done. A totally unplanned deal.
@CO88LER5 wrote:I'd think of it as a bit like when United bought Cantona from Leeds. That started as an enquiry from Leeds for a United player(can't remember who). Fergue said "no" but asked about Cantona, and the deal was done. A totally unplanned deal.
That was Dennis Irwin if I remember correctly.
Not often I agree in the term A Player is the difference maker, but back then Cantona sure was and someone like Fergie was able to tame him a bit better than Howard Wilkinson was. Leeds fans were furious for letting him go especially to United, but truth be known he was going anyways
@CO88LER5 wrote:I'd think of it as a bit like when United bought Cantona from Leeds. That started as an enquiry from Leeds for a United player(can't remember who). Fergue said "no" but asked about Cantona, and the deal was done. A totally unplanned deal.
As far as I know, Fergie went for Alan Shearer, who chose to join Blackburn in stead. So he must have been on the market for a striker at the time.
@thurlow885 wrote:That was Dennis Irwin if I remember correctly.
Not often I agree in the term A Player is the difference maker, but back then Cantona sure was and someone like Fergie was able to tame him a bit better than Howard Wilkinson was. Leeds fans were furious for letting him go especially to United, but truth be known he was going anyways
Haha, if they wanted a Man United player, I suppose they shouldn't have asked for the gaffer's favourite. I agree with the "difference maker" though. Cantona at Man United and Ronaldinho at Barcelona. I can't think of anyone more worthy of that term than these two.
Beating Spurs then losing to Wolves sounds like the story of your season. Wins were expected against the lower league opposition even if rotated team but progress in the cup is still good. Fighting for a Trophy is still to be expected. Bit of a gap for Top 6, but plenty of points to play for.
I also think you've come out with the better end of the deal regardless Eriksen which is unusual for Man United these days.
@thurlow885 wrote:Beating Spurs then losing to Wolves sounds like the story of your season. Wins were expected against the lower league opposition even if rotated team but progress in the cup is still good. Fighting for a Trophy is still to be expected. Bit of a gap for Top 6, but plenty of points to play for.
I also think you've come out with the better end of the deal regardless Eriksen which is unusual for Man United these days.
Perhaps Wolves are turning out to be my bogey team in this save. They beat med 3-1 in the season opener with the same two guys scoring there. I've now decided to scout them both. If I can't beat them, maybe I can buy them in stead. But yes, beating Spurs and losing to them certainly is the story of this season. And - I suppose - the story of Man United IRL for the past 10 years.
@JustinCase0110 wrote:
@thurlow885 wrote:Beating Spurs then losing to Wolves sounds like the story of your season. Wins were expected against the lower league opposition even if rotated team but progress in the cup is still good. Fighting for a Trophy is still to be expected. Bit of a gap for Top 6, but plenty of points to play for.
I also think you've come out with the better end of the deal regardless Eriksen which is unusual for Man United these days.
Perhaps Wolves are turning out to be my bogey team in this save. They beat med 3-1 in the season opener with the same two guys scoring there. I've now decided to scout them both. If I can't beat them, maybe I can buy them in stead. But yes, beating Spurs and losing to them certainly is the story of this season. And - I suppose - the story of Man United IRL for the past 10 years.
That is something I often do when I play against someone and they cause me issues.. I remember my first season can't remember who, but I couldn't score keeper stopped everything. Was very disappointed tho to find out they were 36 , but it's something I've often done in the past
- @JustinCase0110 Goal difference of plus 5 is progress compared to real life this season...!
- @JustinCase0110 Consecutive 0-0 results...I don't think I've ever had that...!
@CO88LER5 wrote:
Consecutive 0-0 results...I don't think I've ever had that...!Ha, I wouldn't have guessed that you had. Your games are usually more goal-studded than mine, so that's no surprise. It is a sign that my offence hasn't really clicked so far, and I might need to address that sometime soon.
- Progress still seems slowly but surely and quite possibly sneak into top 6 maybe soon. Not far behind 5th either, altho tough game coming up against Rivals City
@thurlow885 wrote:- Progress still seems slowly but surely and quite possibly sneak into top 6 maybe soon. Not far behind 5th either, altho tough game coming up against Rivals City
Yes, a few good results and I might climb a bit further in the table. I need something new to improve though. My offence doesn't 'click' and goals are too hard to find at times. And I lose far too many games. But hey, I also did the clearout to prevent it from being too easy. We'll see what happens in the summer.
Good Cup run even if are making hard work of lower opposition. While there still plenty of games remaining The FA Cup or Conference League could well be best shot at making it.into Europe next season.
Not a terrible run in the league all things considered and must have been frustrating against City. A loss may have been anticipated, but at the depth makes it that much harder to take
@thurlow885 wrote:Good Cup run even if are making hard work of lower opposition. While there still plenty of games remaining The FA Cup or Conference League could well be best shot at making it.into Europe next season.
Not a terrible run in the league all things considered and must have been frustrating against City. A loss may have been anticipated, but at the depth makes it that much harder to take
Yes, that was a frustrating one. I also hope to avoid the Citizens winning the title, secretly hoping that Arsenal will take it... or even Liverpool (though it's hard to admit)... So that was a game I would have wanted more from, especially being a goal up at the interval.
I agree that the FA Cup and the Conference League are my best title hopes, and my most likely way into Europe next season. I actually wasn't aware that a Conference League title gave you access to the Europa League, but it seems that it does, so I do have two shots at it, if I fail to climb the league.
@JustinCase0110 wrote:
@thurlow885 wrote:Good Cup run even if are making hard work of lower opposition. While there still plenty of games remaining The FA Cup or Conference League could well be best shot at making it.into Europe next season.
Not a terrible run in the league all things considered and must have been frustrating against City. A loss may have been anticipated, but at the depth makes it that much harder to take
Yes, that was a frustrating one. I also hope to avoid the Citizens winning the title, secretly hoping that Arsenal will take it... or even Liverpool (though it's hard to admit)... So that was a game I would have wanted more from, especially being a goal up at the interval.
I agree that the FA Cup and the Conference League are my best title hopes, and my most likely way into Europe next season. I actually wasn't aware that a Conference League title gave you access to the Europa League, but it seems that it does, so I do have two shots at it, if I fail to climb the league.
I can feel the pain coming through the text as you say or Liverpool šš
As for Conference League I think UEFA had to add that little incentive cause I couldn't see anyone putting in the effort to win a new European tournament no one asked for if it didn't progress them
@thurlow885 wrote:I can feel the pain coming through the text as you say or Liverpool šš
Yes that's true. Very painful indeed š
Great run of matches and into the top 6 with a game in hand in the league, a cup final and potentially another one being lined up.
For what started out as quite a slow season could be ending quite successfully. Still gotta win the matches tho and plenty to work on going forward.
