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2 years ago
@Cheerspal179 I'd also add that they got rid of RB "driven" passes, and replaced it with this "Precision" pass thing that literally nobody uses.
A projection line shows where the pass is going (easy for the defence or what?) And the RB pass now goes SLOWER than a normal pass so it's just 200% easy to cut out. The "Precision Pass" playstyle doesn't make a difference either. Tried it and jt was utterly useless, complete waste of time.
Some play styles are useless (lob pass, Precision pass, ) nd some are ridiculously OP (Finesse Shot). It's just pointless really
Getting 88 bots is like getting to level 25 (which was max) on fifa 22 - it'll basically take all year. Wheres the point in that? You need to be msx level to get the full enjoyment out the game.
Another thing similar Is the "5 star club rating" thing which let's you get better stadium. (Like old Trafford or bernabeu) this took ages on fifa 22/23 to the point the only clubs with "5 star rating" has played like 600 games (often 300 W 300 L) which is a 50% Loss record whcih isn't actually a good record, but the system is designed around time spent playing and not really how good your results are.
Why not just make all staidums available from the start - or, make them available once you're div 1 or elite div ? Why lock them behind 500 games?
And speaking of 500 games - that's a fair amount of game time. Because Pro Clubs games are LONG. They're too long. They're 8 minute per half, which means a game is 16 minutes. Give 30 seconds half time break, 30 seconds to 1 minute loading in, 30 seconds at the end for highlights, and in game breaks like goals and fouls, and a pro clubs match lasts 20 minutes.
That's not even counting failed load ins or having to dashboard cos someone didn't get in.
And that's not even counting sometimes not finding a match for upwards of 5 minutes.
All the while your club record (although that's not such a big thing this fifa) will tank because the longer you stay in a club the more Entropy increases and losses set in, especially if you're playing in high divisions.
The whole thing needs re structured.
1. Go back to the fifa 23 league system. Make the cups constantly open, all of them all the time and allow friendlies to have cup rules ie no rules or mystery ball. Also, see if you can come up with more cup rules games. How about philosophers football with different shaped nets, such as small triangular nets, or a net that's half way up a wall and needs a specific type of finesse shot to score into? The Game becomes about trying to pull off that specific shot, or stopping opponents from pulling it off.
Or 5 a side or 7 a side? On smaller pitches? Like volta but not as bad (seriously what's with volta? Why are players so unresponsive on volta? I feel a good 2 second delay to pass and shot inputs on volta. I feel like the idea of volta is you're meant to pass badly or not at all, and the idea is you're meant to maybe lose the ball from shots and passes and the entire idea is to dribble around people. As someone who got into fifa before it became Dribbling Simulator i just don't truck with that mentality.)
There's other scenarios.
And to ensure you're not just searching for games for Ages how about a Queue system where you can see other clubs who are waiting to play a certain game mode? So there's a mystery ball queue, a no rules queue, etc. Join the queue and play a league game and once you're both finished it'll highlight saying "play Cup match now?"
I'd also make it so that anyone yoi play in the cup, you play in any round of the cup, not just whoever in your round, to ensure yoi have match making. So currently you only play who's in the final if you're in the final. I'd just make the cup the cup and broaden the search similar to league where you play people 2 dovisions +/- your league.
In fact League matchmaking is so broken that for a game to REMAIN in div 3 once we matched against East Coasters in fifa 23 who were div 1 and ranked 8th in the world.
2. Bring back the 10 division league system. Maybe introduce a "Champions League / Europa League" style system where to qualify you have to win div 1 or div 2 or whatever and then you enter into a two-legged knock out system where you play other league champions, home and away, 4 rounds then a one legged Final at a neutral venue. Champions of that can keep re entering and it'd be a way to make clubs who are bored of winning div 1 have a new challenge. There'd be leader boards and all kinds of detailed info on the best teams and hoe you and your friends teams compare.
3. Re introduce relegation. Drop the play off system. Drop the Win 5 of 5 American style nonsense. Get rid of Volta as nobody plays it anyway and make all the customisation form volta just available in clubs , and increase the level of customization.
Id come up with more but can't be bothered right now.
A projection line shows where the pass is going (easy for the defence or what?) And the RB pass now goes SLOWER than a normal pass so it's just 200% easy to cut out. The "Precision Pass" playstyle doesn't make a difference either. Tried it and jt was utterly useless, complete waste of time.
Some play styles are useless (lob pass, Precision pass, ) nd some are ridiculously OP (Finesse Shot). It's just pointless really
Getting 88 bots is like getting to level 25 (which was max) on fifa 22 - it'll basically take all year. Wheres the point in that? You need to be msx level to get the full enjoyment out the game.
Another thing similar Is the "5 star club rating" thing which let's you get better stadium. (Like old Trafford or bernabeu) this took ages on fifa 22/23 to the point the only clubs with "5 star rating" has played like 600 games (often 300 W 300 L) which is a 50% Loss record whcih isn't actually a good record, but the system is designed around time spent playing and not really how good your results are.
Why not just make all staidums available from the start - or, make them available once you're div 1 or elite div ? Why lock them behind 500 games?
And speaking of 500 games - that's a fair amount of game time. Because Pro Clubs games are LONG. They're too long. They're 8 minute per half, which means a game is 16 minutes. Give 30 seconds half time break, 30 seconds to 1 minute loading in, 30 seconds at the end for highlights, and in game breaks like goals and fouls, and a pro clubs match lasts 20 minutes.
That's not even counting failed load ins or having to dashboard cos someone didn't get in.
And that's not even counting sometimes not finding a match for upwards of 5 minutes.
All the while your club record (although that's not such a big thing this fifa) will tank because the longer you stay in a club the more Entropy increases and losses set in, especially if you're playing in high divisions.
The whole thing needs re structured.
1. Go back to the fifa 23 league system. Make the cups constantly open, all of them all the time and allow friendlies to have cup rules ie no rules or mystery ball. Also, see if you can come up with more cup rules games. How about philosophers football with different shaped nets, such as small triangular nets, or a net that's half way up a wall and needs a specific type of finesse shot to score into? The Game becomes about trying to pull off that specific shot, or stopping opponents from pulling it off.
Or 5 a side or 7 a side? On smaller pitches? Like volta but not as bad (seriously what's with volta? Why are players so unresponsive on volta? I feel a good 2 second delay to pass and shot inputs on volta. I feel like the idea of volta is you're meant to pass badly or not at all, and the idea is you're meant to maybe lose the ball from shots and passes and the entire idea is to dribble around people. As someone who got into fifa before it became Dribbling Simulator i just don't truck with that mentality.)
There's other scenarios.
And to ensure you're not just searching for games for Ages how about a Queue system where you can see other clubs who are waiting to play a certain game mode? So there's a mystery ball queue, a no rules queue, etc. Join the queue and play a league game and once you're both finished it'll highlight saying "play Cup match now?"
I'd also make it so that anyone yoi play in the cup, you play in any round of the cup, not just whoever in your round, to ensure yoi have match making. So currently you only play who's in the final if you're in the final. I'd just make the cup the cup and broaden the search similar to league where you play people 2 dovisions +/- your league.
In fact League matchmaking is so broken that for a game to REMAIN in div 3 once we matched against East Coasters in fifa 23 who were div 1 and ranked 8th in the world.
2. Bring back the 10 division league system. Maybe introduce a "Champions League / Europa League" style system where to qualify you have to win div 1 or div 2 or whatever and then you enter into a two-legged knock out system where you play other league champions, home and away, 4 rounds then a one legged Final at a neutral venue. Champions of that can keep re entering and it'd be a way to make clubs who are bored of winning div 1 have a new challenge. There'd be leader boards and all kinds of detailed info on the best teams and hoe you and your friends teams compare.
3. Re introduce relegation. Drop the play off system. Drop the Win 5 of 5 American style nonsense. Get rid of Volta as nobody plays it anyway and make all the customisation form volta just available in clubs , and increase the level of customization.
Id come up with more but can't be bothered right now.
2 years ago
@Cheerspal179 Oh yeah I meant to add,
4. Re introduce Be A Pro friendlies with up to 11 v 11 of real teams. So, playing as Modric for real madrid for example.
And while I'm at that - make the real teams ratings better. What's the opposite of "power creep"? I've noticed "weakening" creep happening to real players in fifa. I used to be a Seasons player, but I've noticed that the real teams ratings are really bad - everyone is 82 for some reason and they're mostly slow with awful stats. This is because the real players can't be better than fake FUT cards as the game now revolves around "Team of the Season" haaland and not real haaland, or classic players like Zidane or Pele
Speaking of which, and I've asked for this for ages, introduce a Classics mode whcih is just all classic line ups. So Holland 1974, hunGary 1954, inter milan 1965, Liverpool 1981, ac milan 1989, Spain 2010, France 98, Italy 1938, etc. You can just play these teams against each other. Whi was better? Barcelona 2009 or AC Milan 1989? Well let's just simulate em on fifa!
You can sort of do that with fut but it's too tricky and time consuming , you wouldn't get the full line ups never mind the kits, and fut is just horrendous anyway to begin with
That's not pro clubs related but id still like to see it in.
4. Re introduce Be A Pro friendlies with up to 11 v 11 of real teams. So, playing as Modric for real madrid for example.
And while I'm at that - make the real teams ratings better. What's the opposite of "power creep"? I've noticed "weakening" creep happening to real players in fifa. I used to be a Seasons player, but I've noticed that the real teams ratings are really bad - everyone is 82 for some reason and they're mostly slow with awful stats. This is because the real players can't be better than fake FUT cards as the game now revolves around "Team of the Season" haaland and not real haaland, or classic players like Zidane or Pele
Speaking of which, and I've asked for this for ages, introduce a Classics mode whcih is just all classic line ups. So Holland 1974, hunGary 1954, inter milan 1965, Liverpool 1981, ac milan 1989, Spain 2010, France 98, Italy 1938, etc. You can just play these teams against each other. Whi was better? Barcelona 2009 or AC Milan 1989? Well let's just simulate em on fifa!
You can sort of do that with fut but it's too tricky and time consuming , you wouldn't get the full line ups never mind the kits, and fut is just horrendous anyway to begin with
That's not pro clubs related but id still like to see it in.
- 2 years ago@Cheerspal179 Another thing I'd like to see is a "Palmarès" section on players Pro profiles , or in English "Honours List" of what they've won. So
DIV 1 TITLE WINNER x3
EA CUP WINNER x4
NO RULES CUP WINNER x1
And then what season and what club that was with so like
FC PROCLUBS Season 8 EA Cup WINNER
And if EA could program that in and not be a horrendous glitchy mess that'd be grand 👍
Else I'm just guns get UFL 🤷♂️
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