CMS General Discussion Thread

Beware of the following: many English clubs make mistakes (Man U, Chelsea, Tottenham) when it comes to picking a manager - this has to do with the rather closed football culture England has, where they judge what's going on in mainland Europe through English eyes; that is, based on results and statistics and not so much the characteristics of a person, whether a person would fit into the culture, the job, the club.

The cultural aspect is being vastly underestimated: not many football coaches from mainland Europe have it in them to adapt to England as a (very closed) football culture, the job of a manager (instead of a coach) and the characteristics of a specific club (mismatch: some people just don't fit at certain clubs).

Erik ten Hag is a very good example. Great coach, great football crazy guy -  but a manager? And just because he previously had excellent results at Eagles, Utrecht and Ajax, does not mean you're suitable for a managerial job in the English Premier League. The results might say yes, but he was head coach in the Netherlands, not manager of an England based football corporation. And he was excellent in the Dutch system, where we're used to sell off our stand out players and instead integrate up and coming youngsters. Quite different from what is expected of you at Man United, where you need to lead a squad of mostly well established stars.

Anyway, about your options. Again, I look if a person would fit in the country, in the job, at that club...:

• Diego Sieone is stuck at Atlético Madrid and I don't see him move outside the Latin spheres (Southern Europe, South America)
• Hansi Flick is another character of whom I think won't make it outside his beloved native area.
• Ruben Amorim is an interesting one - for him, Man United would be another step up the ladder. His 3-4-3 is attractive and attacking. Good one
• Graham Potter is overrated I believe. He had a good run at BHA but if you put it next to what is successor De Zerbi is able to do, Potter's achievements were modest at best and his results at Swansea or Chelsea weren't that great either. His great plus however, is that he does know what it takes to be a manager in the English sense of the word.

So, I'd narrow it down to Amorim and/or Potter.

And then, Ratcliffe needs a good PR-/Communication director to get across that it will be (another) transition period for Man United first. The position as Communication Director is something where you could put yourself into the story.

i just didn't know how to start a separate thread for one, but i'll keep updating here if that works for everyone

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@sonofthepitch wrote:

i just didn't know how to start a separate thread for one, but i'll keep updating here if that works for everyone

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You're most welcome to post a career story on this site. But posting in the General Discussion Thread isn't the best idea, since we use this for more off topic discussions etc. So I highly recommend that you push the "NEW TOPIC" button and post all your updates in a separate thread. Then your posts won't drown in other discussions, and it will be easier for everybody to follow the story and provide feedback along the way. Good luck mate.

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@JustinCase0110 wrote: push the "NEW TOPIC" button 

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I will soon. Narrowing down my choices now.

I'm tempted to give it a try somewhere in Germany, though my alternative is to 'start from home' (Cracow, Poland). Little leagues get little attention, so it would be one of a kind for sure.

Germany seems like one of the big leagues not many people use here. I believe it was @JustinCase0110 who did a Leverkusen career last year but not many since.

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@Stlducks4 wrote:

Germany seems like one of the big leagues not many people use here. I believe it was @JustinCase0110 who did a Leverkusen career last year but not many since.

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Yes I did. Or, it was in fact a Hamburger SV career, where I just switched to Leverkusen for the final season, after I'd won it all with HSV. I also had good fun with Magdeburg some seasons ago.

I do also remember startups here with Düsseldorf and Kaiserslautern, both with promising starts, but stopped again rather quickly... Germany is a great choice, but I also fancy leagues outside the top 5, one might learn something new then. And I really don't know that much about football in Poland...

Poland it is, then... I'm going ' home' as I live in Kraków in real life (though born and raised in Amsterdam), the city of my next career.

However, my uncle once worked in the Youth Academy of arch rivals Wisła Kraków, where I myself worked as translator when Robert Maaskant and some other Dutchies were active at the club (2011-2014). In 2014, my uncle's Wisła youth team hammered Cracovia with 10:0 in the finals of the first ever national youth league; something that is still a sensitive topic today, although much has been compensated by Wisła's demise and relegation, a year and a half ago now.

So a move to arch rivals Cracovia, 800 metres on the other side of the Błonia Field is very, very sensitive. On top, via my family-in-law Cracovia-player Mariusz Rakoczy is distant family, so the press will hammer me for treason and nepotism, especially if things turn bad.

That's a hint for you: I invite you to sometimes break into my career as if you're the football press

I am only three matches into my new career in Denmark so I hope this is not just a fluke but the league plays completely different. The CPU team is crossing the ball, passing around the back, two teams pressed hard and one team fell back on defense.

I'm used to playing in England where it seemed like nobody crossed the ball and everyone played the same. Has anyone else noticed differences like this? It is fantastic so far.

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@Stlducks4 wrote:

I am only three matches into my new career in Denmark so I hope this is not just a fluke but the league plays completely different. The CPU team is crossing the ball, passing around the back, two teams pressed hard and one team fell back on defense.

I'm used to playing in England where it seemed like nobody crossed the ball and everyone played the same. Has anyone else noticed differences like this? It is fantastic so far.

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I haven't noticed this. But I remember a huge difference I noticed the last time I played there. The transfers in and out were very limited, so even 4-5 seasons in you could still recognize the other teams' lineups (if you knew about them, of course). I hate - when playing in England - that half a team seems to be changed only six months in sometimes.