Fix the gameplay
Fix the gameplay, don’t ask on twitter for feedback when you’ve been getting it for months on here but think you’re above criticism for a game that is broken from top to bottom and if it’s not broken...
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@RadioShaqs you do realise that the last thing most folk probably have going through their mind is to record the clip showing the issue? I'm not having a go, just saying that in the heat of the moment, I dont think recording a clip is the first thing they thing of unfortunately.
I record mine, but for some reason this site will never allow me to share them, so I've started to stop recording them. I can't even share my connection rate to prove I have flawless connectivity.
I get people don’t want or don’t have time to record but when you say it’s everyone with the same issue it’s millions. Ok I believe you so how many can report it? 200 maybe 300 seems reasonable. I mean sa is probably 800 reports and maybe 200 of the same posters for 1000 posts. Nobody was like I can’t provide evidence look on Facebook or Twitter. I even said there is a clear problem and redirected people to add posts to it so it’s not like I defend ea no matter what. Thankfully it looks like it’s fixed or mostly fixed for them.
I’ve seen people who have posted for 10 years so you would think they would have to time to report it but nobody does.
I’ve seen one person in here report it and nobody else and this thread has been going for 2 months I dunno would have to look at the date.
Ea said in the last post most of the claims are unverified but they would like a video to show the evidence.
So if nobody follows the instructions ea needs and wants not sure what they can do. Blame ea all you want but at least show them what’s going on so they can look into it.
- @RadioShaqs Where should people report it though? Just in here? Theres millions of players but not all players know this forum even exists, so the ones that are, a huge percentage are complaining about the same thing
Don’t think it really matters. Look at the influx of sa there were so many ea had to consolidate them into one thread. I mean I would pick whatever section the issue is like if it’s fut it would make more sense to have it in the fut section. If it’s a bug it would make more sense to put it in the bug section.
The issue is that even if you were to post a video, the issues are not visible. The issues with this type of gameplay is that the players feel heavy and don't move as intended. A lot of people use the term "delay" to describe it when that is not true as the inputs register in time. The gameplay does feel delayed though through player movement not being as it should so in some regard players are correct to term it delay but not in the literal sense. The issue has been around for years and is clearly a mechanism introduced by the developers as a form of lag compensation so that people with poor internet can play and not be punished for it. As i say if i showed you a clip of a striker bursting past a defender it is easy for someone to say a mistake was made with positioning or was too late with player switching, or it the stats of the players even though in the context of the whole match one team is moving quicker than the opponents If EA wanted to address this they could but they would rather smooth the gameplay out with lag compensation than address the issue which is fair enough from a business point of view.
You can show delay and a problem with the server. If you run the input overlay on and the controllers are not in sync then you have delay. But yeah just they feel heavy it’s not something you can show and might be down to your setup.
But this is one of the biggest problems is people try to lump all the problems in the same boat.
Like noway he has real delay and it’s when he plays against Germans. Others can’t pass. Others say it’s pace. So that’s why it’s important to do all the tests and show it in gameplay. As you can show most of the issues people are claiming.
There is certainly something in the game that causes the issues people talk about. The best way of describing it is that one team is slightly out of sync with the game. This doesn't manifest itself in button delay as such so the input overlay would not show this. In game it results in players not moving as they should. They either move slightly slower, take extra touches or extra animations, or ai players not pressing or being in the positions they normally would. For me i find my players don't accelerate as the stats would suggest. If i had the exact same players as my opponent then this would result in their attacker being able to run past my defender and i can't catch up, yet up the other end their defender would catch my attacker. It is unfair but it's not something the devs will talk about or improve because it's the lag compensation to allow everyone to play against each other. Ideally they should tweak it so that those with poor internets or wifi get punished more but from a business point of view it is clearly more profitable for them to punish the good internets.
i do think people get frustrated with this gameplay but everyone describes it slightly differently i.e it's delay and then exaggerate it's effect i.e it takes 2 seconds to respond which is clearly impossible to play. It's probably a fraction of a second if at all, but when the players respond slower (i.e they turn slower or don't accelerate as they should) people assume it's delayed when technically it isn't. We all want a fair game but currently players do get punished depending on where the live and their internet which shouldn't be the case.
Lag compensation is in every online game. That wouldn’t be causing the problems you are describing. Sounds more like your setup like needing to be in tv mode. I’ve never experienced that type of gameplay.
But yeah if your defenders can’t catch up things like that would be clear to see on video. Also things like players taking extra touches.
I’ve also seen people confuse delay as they hit the button but actually needing for the ball to either arrive to the player or the player needing to catch up to a ball. This was explained when he provided video though.
- @RadioShaqs I don’t want to come across nasty but you’re defo a EA shill or rep. The way you’re defending this disgraceful gameplay is laughable man. It’s not our internet or our connection or the ‘game mode’ setting or any of the 101 excuses presented. It’s something categorically wrong with this game/franchise!! I can play any other game I want and not have these problems, at all….. when it comes to fifa you’ve got to tweak this and check your DNS and ports and all this other nonsense to try and make something that doesn’t work, work. EA need to sort out their coding or servers or something else but trust me, it’s not on us! sick of seeing people like you defend the undefendable, respectfully. Nothing personal
I get it. It’s just a way to deflect and not actually discuss the topic. That’s why it’s important to actually show what’s going on with gameplay and tests.
Also rather than try to tear you down I would rather prop you up. I actually think most of you guys in here are smart enough to post like no way which is helping the community. There is no need to try to tear others down. Try to be postive and help the community. Provide the tests and show ea what’s wrong so you can help form change. I get it when things are not working it can be frustrating making you take it out on others.
- @RadioShaqs respect brother
- @RadioShaqs Show EA what is wrong so they will change it
THEY NEVER DO
This is what you refuse to concede as you constantly blame the player, EA does not change ANYTHYING ever, they produce a rubbish game full of bugs and then do their best to make it even worse in the hopes you'll buy overpriced untradable packs to overcome their own bad gameplay
Well congratulations, you've beaten me.
I quit, I'm done, and EA, you can t6hank this "champion" for it, - @sniperfox29 I didn’t blame the players in sa when they provided evidence so you are wrong and ea looked into it.
The problem is you want to blame ea no matter what and are not willing to have a neutral view. - @RadioShaqs Because they are the ones who created the game, they are at fault
Transfer market - 95% of players never sell and haven't done for months and months. Virtually pointless
SBC's - Every single day one is reported to not work properly, others are ridiculously overpriced for one single player who may, or may not, actually work properly.
Packs - Ridiculously low odds on ANYTHING good and will be untradeable anyway. I once proved that one pack had a chance of less that 1% for a player who would actually be worth the cost of the pack.
Forcing people to play friendlies which are nothing but toxic sweaty mess - Self explanatory
Forcing people to play rivals - once you hit around division 5-6, again, toxic sweaty mess
Gameplay - Reported by 90% of this board, complete and total mess
But hey, it's not EA's fault, it's our fault for daring to expect a good product, how dare we demand satisfaction. We should say thank you EA, can you bum us somoe more? - @RadioShaqs It's funny, I'm reading so many posts where you defend EA and blame the players and NOBODY is buying what you shovel.
You should honestly just give up, nobody cares what you claim anymore and if we could block you, we would.
Sad you feel the need to blame everyone else for not agreeing with you and EA, but I guess they've got somekind of Stockholm effect on you. - @sniperfox29 I think you have selective memory. This thread someone else blames the players connection but not me.
I don’t understand if you want answers like the op why not provide evidence. I mean no way got the answers to his videos.
Look I blamed ea for the 5221 bug even though others blamed the player. He provided evidence and got the answer he wanted.
https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Formation-changes-itself-in-game/m-p/13654424#M28446
If you tried to help people rather than tear others down you could really help the communty. I can see how much knowledge you have of the game. Try helping others improve the communty. That`s why his nick is Radio...... over and over the same song - connection, connection, I want to help with connection .. etc.
He probably thinks we're idiots. We all play different games or previous editions. Only FC24 does not work normally and he keeps proposing some connection tests. He pretends that he want to help but treats the rest like nubz with a broken Internet.
In addition, he lies that the game works great for him.
................but when or if he play this game ???????
After all he is on this forum 24/h and writing posts - so how can he know someting about gameplay?
- @LukeNuke3000D I can see you just ignore the posts where I say it’s not the connection even when I give examples. At least try to help the op in the thread.
I guess you changed the frequency. 1/1000 is not the connection issue XD..
Besides, I've already told you. Discuss with you a topic - its like a qaurell with a blind about colors.
- @LukeNuke3000D That’s what I am saying when you follow me around talking about a radio you know the name isn’t about a radio right? But I get that it could be interpreted as such at least try to help the person asking for it in the thread. You can ignore me.
- @RadioShaqs You have not helped ANYONE, all you do is blame them for not liking the game or not being good enough
That's why nobody takes you seriously, there's no reason to listen to people like you who do nothing but blame others.
Don't bother to respond, I will never, ever, ever, address you again, it's not worth my time or anyone elses, so you better hope EA keep giving you brown envelops to make excuses for them - @sniperfox29 Like I said I don’t care if you trash me or ignore posts where I blame ea. I get we won’t see eye to eye. I also appreciate the radio quips from Luke. I am just saying while doing it try to help others.
- @LukeNuke3000D My thoughts exactly, RadioWhatever is always here. How does he know how the game plays.
I've asked him to redender the solutions for delay available but he keeps asking I post videos and return tests. Just list previous solutions if any and I'll try them. Everyone can't keep making videos but he keeps repeating.
I am so tired of going in circles. I remember when playstyle indicators caused some issue. Solution was shared we should turn off.
They should just have a list of solutions for delay and lack of response in game. Then when none works they can now report the issue instead of asking us to take an exam. - @BanesSolace you keep repeating the same thing. There isn’t anything I can do. All I can do is suggest to do the tests which ea is asking you for in the other thread. Why not post in that thread rather than making 20 other posts about it. Also try the connection faq it has solutions in it or listen to ea in that thread like lol.
@RadioShaqsI get it, being a mod on a site can be a thankless task. Been there, done, T shirt, hot supper...these people all think you work for EA...so you're never gonna get a constructive post. By these people I mean the ones who take it personally by your responses.
This game has been garbage since day one. Had someone like BMW kept applying shoddy workmanship to a certain part of their vehicle, you'd know about it pretty quick and it would be changed, EA, don't care about the consumer anymore. As long as fools keep.puutimg money into idiotic packs hoping for big players, with zero return, this game is going nowhere.
- I am not a mod nor do I work for ea.
