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LazerCobra006
Rising Novice
4 years ago

Deep zones vs deep posts

Product: Madden NFL 22
Platform:Xbox Series X
Which console generation do you have? Microsoft Xbox One X
What is your gamertag/PSN ID?
Date/time issue occurred Everyday
What type of issue do you have? Exploit
Which mode has this happened in? Ultimate Team
Which part of the mode? MUT Champions
Summarize your bug Deep zones don’t react to deep posts cutting across the field
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? FIX DEEP ZONES!
What happens when the bug occurs? Touchdown
What do you expect to see? It to be fixed yet again
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Upon game launch early in the year your deep zones did nothing to prevent deep posts from cutting across the field. They were wide open. The n you fixed it in a patch. For the past two weeks at least, the deep zones do not pick up the deep inside post. It’s getting abused in online h2h. The only way to stop it is to user that route. PLEASE FIX THIS ASAP!   I’m at my wits end once again with your game. 

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  • Product: Madden NFL 22
    Platform:Microsoft XBOX One
    Which console generation do you have? Microsoft Xbox One S
    What is your gamertag/PSN ID?
    Date/time issue occurred Everyday
    What type of issue do you have? Gameplay
    Which mode has this happened in? Ultimate Team
    Which part of the mode? Seasons
    Summarize your bug Zone coverage is completely broken. Flats don’t cover receivers and deep blues glitch out and let a receiver running a go route run right past them.
    How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
    Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Play the game
    What happens when the bug occurs? Defensive backs look lost
    What do you expect to see? Zone coverage actually cover receivers. Basic fundamental football
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    What is the AMD or Nvidia Model Number of your graphics card?
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    Please patch zone coverage

  • Product: Madden NFL 22
    Platform:Xbox Series X
    Which console generation do you have? Microsoft Xbox One X
    What is your gamertag/PSN ID?
    Date/time issue occurred Every game
    What type of issue do you have? Exploit
    Which mode has this happened in? Ultimate Team
    Which part of the mode? MUT Champions
    Summarize your bug Deep blue zones don’t cover crossing deep posts
    How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
    Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Run a deep post that crosses. Audible your tb to a wheel. The weak side safety stays way too low and allows the post to cross, that wr is wide open everytime
    What happens when the bug occurs? Touchdown
    What do you expect to see? The zones to be fixed
    PS4 Crash Reporting: Please copy the text you put in the crash report here.
    What is the AMD or Nvidia Model Number of your graphics card?
    Enter RAM memory size in GB

    This has become an epidemic. I am now seeing different users spam this on offense. And there are several plays & formations that offer this route. The only way to defend it is to user it, and even then it’s hard to catch up. If I am successful in covering it there is another guy or two open underneath. Deep blue zones need to cover those deep crossing post routes. It is literally a touchdown on demand. This was an issue at game launch, then it was patched. It has since came back into the game. 

  • EA_Blueberry's avatar
    EA_Blueberry
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    4 years ago
    @LazerCobra006

    Try blitzing one of the DBs covering them at the line for extra pressure. If you know they are going deep crossing route they won't break to the left side of the field (if they're lined up on the left).
  • LazerCobra006's avatar
    LazerCobra006
    Rising Novice
    4 years ago

    I’ll give it a shot, thanks for the suggestion. However I still believe the deep blue zones should be aware of and cover the crossing post. I usually run nickel normal and dime normal man coverage, I have all year, and it’s only been at game launch as well as the past few weeks where the safeties don’t pick up the post, which is why I believe it to be a bug. Thanks. 

  • So i just downloaded the game a month ago, is there a way to get your deep zone players to cover their guys deep? i keep getting beat on plays like PA crossers because my backside corner let’s a guy scream past him. is this a known bug and what’s the progress on them fixing it? i feel like this was a thing in past maddens too am i wrong?

    EA_Blueberry: Added some text to post title for increased visibility 

  • CountryTimeX's avatar
    CountryTimeX
    4 years ago

    @EA_Blueberry  Hey thank you for adjusting the title however that wasn’t my question if you want to reread what i wrote. i should also add, without having to to user a player. just to reiterate what the post says, how do you make your players play zones they are supposed to play? any answers would be great at this point. just got beat by a guy who only ran pa crossers and red zone hb corner. I ran cover 4, cover 3, cover 1, and blitzed against it and no coverage does a guy cover the corner or crosser. let me know if you need the video proof!

  • EA_Blueberry's avatar
    EA_Blueberry
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    4 years ago

    @CountryTimeX 

    Attaching some video examples here can help a ton in understanding how the play developed on both sides of the ball. Can you upload it to YouTube and link the video here?


  • EA_Blueberry's avatar
    EA_Blueberry
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    4 years ago

    @LazerCobra006  @CountryTimeX  @Schemez77 

    Here is what is happening in Madden NFL 23 per Community feedback:

    Before we share a few of the Foundational Football improvements coming to Madden NFL 23, get caught up on how the all-new FieldSENSE™ Gameplay System is changing the foundation of Madden gameplay, only on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S versions, if you haven’t already checked that out.

    Player feedback continues to drive our development efforts around gameplay and we want to thank you all for taking the time to share that feedback with us. Our primary gameplay goal with our foundational football initiative is to strengthen the fundamentals so that players will have the tools to solve football problems with football solutions on the virtual gridiron.

    Our Foundational Football Gridiron Notes starts with the areas of gameplay that our players have told us matter most: pass coverage, pass rush, and QB Contain, to deliver a more balanced gameplay experience. For Madden NFL 23, we believe these three defensive fundamentals all have to work together to provide the authenticity and balance our players desire.

    Pass Coverage

    We received a ton of feedback at launch last year around pass coverage and continued to action on specific coverage call-outs through Title Updates post-launch. Like every Madden season, we know that players have high expectations for defense, specifically pass coverage and this year is no different. This year, we are solidifying our basic, fundamental coverage principles with a focus on zone coverage and defending the deep pass.

    • Spot Drop Zones
      We will be featuring ‘spot-drop’ zones as our core zone coverage concept within our defensive playbooks and AI. This means that by default, all the zone coverages in our playbooks will be strictly using spot-drop zone logic and covering a specific area of the field, instead of a mixture of both spot-drops and match coverages like we had last year. The main purpose of this change was to make the play-art in the play-call screen the central source of truth for players so they can better predict how their zones will react during the play.

      Match Zone coverage concepts are still accessible through our Coach Adjustments menu during your play selection. Simply flipping the Zone Coverage Coach Adjustment to ‘Match’ will bring back our in-depth ruleset for match coverages, those that convert from zone to man during the play, when specifically calling the match coverage play types.
    • Drift Logic for Deep Zone Defenders
      Drift Logic is all new coverage behavior for Deep Zone defenders. This logic prevents deep zone defenders from ‘drifting’ too far up the field without having a vertical threat in their area. This will prevent those ‘Third Window’ throws on deep crossing routes. Drift Logic allows the defender to recognize a receiver approaching his zone sooner, plaster him in coverage as he crosses his face, and not get beat underneath. Players told us those third-window crossers were completed too consistently and this new ‘drift’ logic aims to address that feedback.
    • Zone Defender Locomotion
      We’ve captured a whole new set of defensive back specific movement animations and along with AI support, the defenders in Madden NFL 23 will back-pedal, flip their hips, strafe and look back at the ball more smoothly, more athletically, and more realistically. Not only will defensive backs look the part, but these new movement animations also get them to where they want to go with more efficiency, which will make passing windows against zone coverage much tighter.
    • Route Specific Break-on-Throw Logic
      We’ve also added dynamic break times for each type of zone defender when facing specific routes. Zones that are supposed to take away specific routes or areas of the field will now break on the throw faster versus those routes than they will against routes their zones are not designed to take away. One example of this is a hard flat zone aggressively breaking on a route to the flat instead of leveraging deeper routes first; another is deep outside third defender in Cover 3 breaking faster when a corner route enters their zone.
    • New End Zone Coverage Logic
      Previously, our deep zone defenders made little logic adjustments when they were covering in the endzone. This resulted in defenders squeezing down on routes breaking to the inside while disregarding the underneath zone defenders resulting in the sidelines and the corners of the end zone being left wide open. This year, those outside deep zone defenders stay outside and sit on those out-breaking or third window crossing routes. They let the route come to them and then they aggressively break on the throw.
    • DB Catch vs Swat
      With our zone coverage defenders playing stronger fundamental football, we have tuned the balance between ‘play ball,’ ‘play receiver,’ and ‘swat’ so that you’ll see defenders use a wider variety of behaviors when the ball is in the air, rather than always attempting the interception. This coincides with tuning on how far defenders are allowed to see the ball when not facing it and promotes more organic mid-air interactions at the catch point, via our FieldSENSE Hit Everything branching technology and mechanics.

    See the whole article on gameplay changes here. Thank you for your feedback over this last year and please let us know what you think in our Madden NFL 23 forums.

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