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Re: The Ongoing Phenomenon of Unsellable Elites & Elites Priced Ridiculously High

The transactions are not player to player and the "bot" acts as a middleman for the transactions. There are multiple auction house servers, thus explains why you may not have seen your brother's listing. The actual supply and demand of pricing is controlled by the players though. If the Kareem Hunt sold for 1 million coins, players should be able to successfully list the item for a price around that range. If they do not sell, it's encouraged to lower the price of the item until a new buyer sells it to establish it's true price. 

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  • Ryguyrock123's avatar
    Ryguyrock123
    6 years ago
    We were on the same server because all the other cards were the same. His card was priced similarly to all the other cards, so the only explanation is that the none of the cards we buy and sell are with real people.
  • Thanks Blueberry for your reply to my post. You point is taken, but it doesn't fully explain the endless masses of elites showing up on the AH at ridiculously high prices nor does it address the phenomenon of elite players not selling at any price, not even giveaway prices. I have had 89 OVR elites priced at just 250 tokens for sale for 72 hours for quite some time and not one sale. Yet somehow out of the scores of attempted sales of elites over the last six weeks, one Totd elite was purchased for 16k which surprised me because no other elites not even Totd players have sold including Totd elites priced at just 750 tokens.

    At least an EA representative finally acknowledged that there is indeed a middleman and that it is not as has been stated many times previously by EA representatives a true player to player AH. I appreciate your honesty because it confirms what many have long suspected and also explains a number of anomalies.

    I am still very curious as to why the AH is filled to overflowing with elite players priced at well over 100k tokens when in reality they are worth less than a 1/10th of their asking prices. As I stated in my post, even newbies can see that for 150k tokens you can purchase a diamond player, and experienced players know this even better. That being the case, why is the AH norm elites priced at well over 100k tokens instead of the exception?  It feels intuitively like the AH is posting elite players at impossibly high prices intentionally. Please address this strange phenomenon. Because this mass posting of elites at crazy-high prices coupled with the unsellable elite syndrome suggests that team MM is deliberately making it impossible to buy or sell elites and I'd like to know what reason why, beyond the obvious greed motivation, this is so. I am not trying to pick on you. I am trying to ascertain the truth. So your additional feedback on these mattes would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. - Michael

  • Ryguy, just another note thanking you for your input here and letting you know that I have witnessed the same phenomenon. 

  • I have noted of late that there are still masses of elite players posted on the AH at high prices but the mean and mode prices are now about 2/3 less than they were a cpl weeks ago. These elites are still way overpriced but now not so glaringly. Regarding the selling of elites, I have had an 89 OVR elite on sale at the AH for weeks for just 250 tokens, a steal compared to the mean asking price and a good buy even just to exchange for power yet no sale. I have had other elites for sale at auction for low prices just to see if they would sell and nope. Not one. So I put a couple Totd elites up for less than the mean asking price just to see if they will sell. I am guessing, based on how overpriced all these elites still are that I will see zero sales. I hope I am wrong. But it seems like MM's AH program is up to its same old tricks, just at less obviously insane prices. Unless a huge majority of players truly believe that their ToTD elites are going to sell for 30 or 40k. Which seems more likely? It bothers me a little that the AH is not a freer market. I realize there are reasons for some controls, but the obvious mass fake postings of elites that can't possibly be worth 2k at most at 40k apparently in order to drive up prices so that no one can buy or sell elites kind of bugs me. My question here is: why? Greed seems the obvious answer but perhaps I am missing something? Please clarify if you don't mind. 

  • I already posted this as a reply to Blueberry but in case you are subscribed to replies I wanted you to read this and comment if you feel so inclined:

    have noted of late that there are still masses of elite players posted on the AH at high prices but the mean and mode prices are now about 2/3 less than they were a cpl weeks ago. These elites are still way overpriced but now not so glaringly. Regarding the selling of elites, I have had an 89 OVR elite on sale at the AH for weeks for just 250 tokens, a steal compared to the mean asking price and a good buy even just to exchange for power yet no sale. I have had other elites for sale at auction for low prices just to see if they would sell and nope. Not one. So I put a couple Totd elites up for less than the mean asking price just to see if they will sell. I am guessing, based on how overpriced all these elites still are that I will see zero sales. I hope I am wrong. But it seems like MM's AH program is up to its same old tricks, just at less obviously insane prices. Unless a huge majority of players truly believe that their ToTD elites are going to sell for 30 or 40k. Which seems more likely? It bothers me a little that the AH is not a freer market. I realize there are reasons for some controls, but the obvious mass fake postings of elites that can't possibly be worth 2k at most at 40k apparently in order to drive up prices so that no one can buy or sell elites kind of bugs me. My question here is: why? Greed seems the obvious answer but perhaps I am missing something? Please clarify if you don't mind. 

  • Ryguyrock123's avatar
    Ryguyrock123
    6 years ago

    I have checked the auction house a few times over the past week. For some reason, I have never seen an 89 for under 132k. Most people would know that elites aren’t worth that much. I have tried posting elites for much less than that, and I’m sure others have as well. Why then, are those not being put on the market and sold. It sure looks like the minimum price for an 89 is 132k. If that has something to do with a limit that EA put on the auction house, could they please remove it. 89s are worth under 20k, so why can’t we sell them that cheap. There is no explanation for why diamonds go for so much cheaper than 89s. There seems to be no control over diamonds, but elites have incredibly high floors. Please lower that. Since there is no exchange set for 87+s that give back coins, make it so that we can sell them. I’m tired of having all these elites stuck on my bench that I can’t sell. I would also like to add that a higher coin exchange set would be nice. Right now we have one for 82-86, one from 85-89 would be nice.

  • As I stated in an earlier post I have noticed recently that while the AH is still posting masses of elites at high prices, they have lowered the average price from like 120k tokens down to around 45k tokens. During the last seven weeks I have sold just two elites, one ToTD for 16k and another for like 32k tokens. At the same time I have had 89 elites for sale for just 250 tokens for weeks now with not one sale. So basically it is business as usual, just with lower prices. Still, no real player is going to pay 40k tokens or more for an elite. I tried selling a bunch of Totd at less than the asking price and like I said, I sold only two, both at prices which were higher IMO than the players were worth. But all my reasonably priced players went totally unsold. It's ridiculous. The AH bot is still posting masses of elites at inflated prices to make players think they can get that much for an elite and not buying elites posted for great prices. So nothing has changed except that instead of asking for 140k for an elite they are now asking 40k. Sigh. 

  • michaelkottler's avatar
    michaelkottler
    6 years ago


    Have noticed that over the course of a day the AH again raised the mean asking price for elites to well over 100k. I have had an 89 OVR Dee Ford DE for sale for just 100 tokens while every other Dee Ford 89 is like 130k+ for some time now, no sale. What the heck is up with the AH, EA? Please, someone reply so I don't have to start a new post. 

  • Have noticed that over the course of a day the AH again raised the mean asking price for elites to well over 100k. I have had an 89 OVR Dee Ford DE for sale for just 100 tokens while every other Dee Ford 89 is like 130k+ for some time now, no sale. What the heck is up with the AH, EA? Please, someone reply so I don't have to start a new post.

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