Aggressive Dialogue Options for Ryder

Ryder is the paragon of paragons she/he will never go renegade the thing is that you need the trust and cooperation of other people you dont have a big system's alliance backing you up or a spectre status to hide behind so you can't really go renegade heck even being the paragon of the paragons there a few angaran that think that maybe wiping you all out is the right thing and let's face it you can't be everywhere you want to make nice with this people so your colonies survive and maybe one day become cities, more cities even more cities eventully forming a good infrastructure you can't do that if everyone wants you and your people dead

Check out this thread here. We're with you, and if we're lucky Bioware will listen

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@ViViD_Prime wrote:

Ryder is the paragon of paragons she/he will never go renegade the thing is that you need the trust and cooperation of other people you dont have a big system's alliance backing you up or a spectre status to hide behind so you can't really go renegade heck even being the paragon of the paragons there a few angaran that think that maybe wiping you all out is the right thing and let's face it you can't be everywhere you want to make nice with this people so your colonies survive and maybe one day become cities, more cities even more cities eventully forming a good infrastructure you can't do that if everyone wants you and your people dead

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The Paragon of Paragons can backstab sloane, have drack drop aronne, shoot Kalinda when she's defenseless and when PeeBee was trying to save her?  Who's having rose tinted glasses now?

I think they made it less awesome by making them less aggressive. Probably too worried about feelings.

1. not saving slone is not a renegade action shes a brutal tyrant

2. shooting Kalinda is a renegade action

3. allowing drack to drop arone is a renegade action

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@ViViD_Prime wrote:

Sloane is a villian saving her is not a paragon action :D

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You didnt comment on the other 2?  Shooting defenseless Kalinda's ok in your books?  How about Aroanne, yes he's a villain but he didnt deserve a trial, since Ryder is the paragon of paragons?  Why didnt you?  Because it doesnt suit you so you brush them aside?

As for Sloane, I agree that she's a villain, but there are different ways to deal with a villain, a true paragon would go up against her regime, not promise to aid her and then backstab her and let her die.  That's the action of a traitor that betrays ones trust, not a paragon.  Just be objective for once and call a spade a spade.  You go around the many threads condemning fans of shepard and the witcher and here calling ryder the paragon of paragons?  Please!  

To put this another way, there are only few "evil/renegade" choices in the game. And most of them out of dialogues (iirc). 

The dialog wheel itself doesn't really offer such choices at all. Atleast can't think of any. Not saying that there is zero, but that is proof enough that they are few and far between at best. True, plotwise makes perfect sense to be diplomatic and generally nice to everyone.

Unless directly confronted like with Aroane, you just chased him through the base fighting his minions...no need to be diplomatic anymore.

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@ViViD_Prime wrote:

Sloane is a villian saving her is not a paragon action :D

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So is Reyes so... we are screwed either way.

Letting someone get shot in cold blood, villian or otherwise isn't very paragon.

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@Nykara360 wrote:

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@ViViD_Prime wrote:

Sloane is a villian saving her is not a paragon action :D

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So is Reyes so... we are screwed either way.

Letting someone get shot in cold blood, villian or otherwise isn't very paragon.

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This discussion almost seems like it needs to move to the I like Sloane thread, home to the biggest Sloane vs Reyes debate this side of the Milky Way!